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TEACHER CLAIMS SHE WAS FIRED FOR VIOLATING 'NO ZERO' POLICY BY NOT GIVING CREDIT TO STUDENTS WHO DIDN'T TURN IN PROJECT

Reading the article, it's unclear whether she actually was fired for violating the policy, but my comment is this: WTF is up with this policy? Teachers in Florida aren't allowed to give students a zero on an assignment even if they don't turn it in?

Talk about encouraging a sense of entitlement in kids. Damn rightists.

I told you being a public school teacher is the worst job I've ever held in my life. I found stacking boxes in a factory for $7/hr more rewarding.

ajax18 wrote:I told you being a public school teacher is the worst job I've ever held in my life.

I didn't know you were once a school teacher.

I will reserve comment on that piece of news.

Some Schmo wrote:

ajax18 wrote:I told you being a public school teacher is the worst job I've ever held in my life.

I didn't know you were once a school teacher.

I will reserve comment on that piece of news.

He was probably a janitor.

I didn't know you were once a school teacher.

I will reserve comment on that piece of news.

I think this is another rare instance where you and I agree on something Schmo. You should do that job for around 6 weeks and you'd understand even more of what I'm talking about. A lot of the kids are behavior disorder. They can leave the room and run to the guidance office any time they want. They can refuse to do work the entire semester and if they fail, it's the teachers fault that they refused to do any work. Heck they can even skip school for several months and the administration can force you to put in 2-3 hours of unpaid overtime catching the child up. It was definitely one of the worst times in my life.

ajax18 wrote:I think this is another rare instance where you and I agree on something Schmo. You should do that job for around 6 weeks and you'd understand even more of what I'm talking about. A lot of the kids are behavior disorder. They can leave the room and run to the guidance office any time they want. They can refuse to do work the entire semester and if they fail, it's the teachers fault that they refused to do any work. It was definitely one of the worst times in my life.

One of the aspects of my career is teaching, and I love doing it. Of course, I'm teaching only adults. I once thought about becoming a school teacher, but I suspect I wouldn't have the patience required to do the job well. I'm not surprised, or even critical, that you hated it. It's not for everyone.

ETA: This is one of the things that makes me think we should pay public educators more money. You get what you pay for.

Some Schmo wrote:ETA: This is one of the things that makes me think we should pay public educators more money. You get what you pay for.

No, you pay for what you get....throwing more money at Welch's grape juice doesn't transform it to Armand de Brignac Brut Gold Champagne.

subgenius wrote:you pay for what you get.

So .. given that competent teachers are necessary in order to ensure that society gets a supply of people who can read, write and add up ... what is your solution to raising the quality of teachers in US public schools (which you evidently consider to be unacceptably low)?

subgenius wrote:

Some Schmo wrote:ETA: This is one of the things that makes me think we should pay public educators more money. You get what you pay for.

No, you pay for what you get....throwing more money at Welch's grape juice doesn't transform it to Armand de Brignac Brut Gold Champagne.

That is one of your stupidest remarks yet! Obviously if we pay teachers a better salary, we attract better, more qualified teachers.

I wouldn't have considered teaching again for under $150k/year. I'm not sure you can pay a good teacher what he's worth. You might get more out of the kids by paying them. I know the students I had were not motivated by grades at all.