MAGA Part II: Ringing a doorbell while black

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MAGA Part II: Ringing a doorbell while black

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Things are tough in Trumpworld. Here you are, the wife of a retired firefighter, and some black kid rings your doorbell wanting directions to his school. How do you respond to this outrage?

By screaming for your husband, who tries to shoot the black kid in the back with a shotgun.

What did the husband tell the police as his justification for shooting an unarmed teenager in the back?

"I'm tired of being a victim." (Watch the video)

I'm tired of being of victim. The 2018 paranoid fascist version of "If it feels good, do it."
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:pay wall


A teen missed the school bus. When he knocked on a door for directions, a man shot at him.

By Alex Horton and
Eli Rosenberg October 11 at 11:03 AM


Brennan Walker didn’t make the morning bus to school. He didn’t have his phone. And he wasn’t sure how to get to his high school.

Brennan needed help finding his way, and the home of Jeffrey Zeigler appeared to be just as good as any to seek neighborly guidance.

Zeigler answered with a shotgun blast.


Jurors on Tuesday watched video of the incident during Zeigler’s trial, which showed how close Brennan, then 14, may have come to a violent death on April 12 in Rochester Hills, Mich.

Zeigler, a retired firefighter, was charged with assault with intent to murder, which could lead to life in prison, Oakland County District Attorney Jessica R. Cooper told The Washington Post on Thursday, along with use of a firearm in a felony.

[A truck with ‘Trump 2020’ bumper stickers was left at a bar overnight. Someone set it on fire.]

A camera that appears to be on Zeigler’s porch captured the teenager, who is black, approaching the house with his hands in his pockets and wearing a backpack. Brennan testified Monday that Zeigler’s wife answered the door and immediately accused him of trying to break into the home, the Oakland Press News reported.

“I was scared. I was trying to tell them that I was trying to get to high school, but they weren’t listening,” Brennan testified.

Zeigler’s wife yelled, and Zeigler sprang out of bed, armed himself with a shotgun and ran out to the porch. Brennan, upon seeing the commotion, turned and ran from the house, the video shows.

Brennan was nearly out of the yard when Zeigler appeared shirtless, shouldered his shotgun and leveled the barrel in the teenager’s direction.

He fired a single shot, the video shows. Brennan was not injured.

Cooper declined further comment, citing the trial this week.

Zeigler’s attorney Rob Morad has said that race was not a factor in the shooting (Zeigler is white), and that his client and his wife were on “high alert” after five previous break-ins at their home. Zeigler “acted from passion instead of judgment,” Morad told jurors. He did not return a request for comment Thursday.

Zeigler has also claimed that he accidentally fired the shotgun after slipping. The video shows Zeigler pausing for a few beats before firing the gun. Oakland County Sheriff’s Deputy Jason Marshall testified he could not say definitively where Zeigler was aiming after reviewing the video, the Press News reported.

Shawn Pace, a detective with the sheriff’s office, testified Tuesday that he had been investigating the claims of a break-in and then watched the video. “I was shocked,” Pace said, according to the Press News. He watched it again, then became “charged up, because I was offended by what I had seen.”

Oakland County Sheriff Michael Bouchard said soon after the incident: “It is just absurd that this happened. I feel terrible for the young man; I feel terrible for the mom and the anxiety that they had to go through.”

Brennan’s mother, Lisa Wright, said in April that she believed the reaction in the Zeigler household was racially motivated. She watched the video soon after the incident. “You can hear the wife say, ‘Why did these people choose my house?’ Who are ‘these people?’ " Wright said. “And that set me off. I didn’t want to believe it was what it appeared to look like. When I heard her say that, it was, like, but it is.”

Zeigler maintained that he believed Brennan was a threat. But Pace showed him the video and asked him to point out where the teenager had shown bad intentions.

Zeigler “took a big drink of water, he looked at me, and he said, ‘I’m tired of being a victim,' ” Pace testified.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:pay wall
Doc, you can right click on the link and choose to view it in your browsers incognito/private/euphemism-for-porn-viewer and get around many of those paywalls, this article being no exception.
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Xenophon wrote:
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:pay wall
Doc, you can right click on the link and choose to view it in your browsers incognito/private/euphemism-for-porn-viewer and get around many of those paywalls, this article being no exception.


Oh ho ho hooooo... Look at that. Porn and pay walls. Thanks for lookin' out!

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That's a pretty one-sided story ya know. Doesn't this same story play out about a thousand times every day in Chicago? Just don't even get how this is newsworthy. Race baiting garbage.
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I agree with the boy's mother's statement of, "If I have a question, I should be able to turn to my village and knock on a door and ask a question."

Also, one should note the kid's father is, according to news sources, deployed to Syria. I couldn't imagine being deployed and I'm seeing this on the news cycle. Crazy times we live in.

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Water Dog wrote:That's a pretty one-sided story ya know. Doesn't this same story play out about a thousand times every day in Chicago? Just don't even get how this is newsworthy. Race baiting garbage.

So the woman would scream and the man would shoot at a white kid?
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MeDotOrg wrote:So the woman would scream and the man would shoot at a white kid?


The homeowners were purportedly robbed 5 times previously. I have no idea who did what, but if that's the case I can understand them being assholes. However, assholes who shoot at a kid with a shotgun, especially when there's no physical threat present, and they already called the cops? That's a very serious problem.

That said, isn't our judicial system functioning irrespective of the racial component? The White man was arrested, charged with a crime, and is on trial?

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
MeDotOrg wrote:So the woman would scream and the man would shoot at a white kid?


The homeowners were purportedly robbed 5 times previously. I have no idea who did what, but if that's the case I can understand them being assholes. However, assholes who shoot at a kid with a shotgun, especially when there's no physical threat present, and they already called the cops? That's a very serious problem.

That said, isn't our judicial system functioning irrespective of the racial component? The White man was arrested, charged with a crime, and is on trial?

- Doc

I'm pretty sure they weren't robbed 5 times by a kid walking up to their front door and ringing their doorbell.
"The great problem of any civilization is how to rejuvenate itself without rebarbarization."
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"We've kept more promises than we've even made"
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