Liberal Media Bias my Ass

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Liberal Media Bias my Ass

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Sinclair is already gearing up for Trump 2020

New “must-run” segment airing a week after midterms boosts Trump and dismisses Democratic chances in 2020

Less than one week after the 2018 midterm elections, Sinclair Broadcast Group is already pushing “must-run” segments minimizing Democratic chances in 2020 and boosting President Donald Trump’s re-election bid.

A new “must-run” commentary segment about the 2020 elections began airing on Sinclair’s local stations on November 12. It’s part of Sinclair’s ongoing series called “Bottom Line with Boris,” which features chief political analyst Boris Epshteyn. Epshteyn worked on Trump’s 2016 campaign and may have signed a nondisparagement agreement during that time that would prevent him from criticizing the president.

In the segment, Epshteyn tells viewers that the Democratic Party has “too many competing messages and varying factions” that will prevent “a clear path to victory in their primaries." He cited eight potential 2020 contenders for the Democratic nomination, ranging from party members like Sen. Cory Booker (D-NJ), who supposedly wants to take the party in "a radical direction of open borders and single-payer health care," to "centrist, pro-business old guard" like former Vice President Joe Biden. Epshteyn said that the Republican Party is very united behind Trump, whom he called a “very formidable candidate” and an “active and strong campaigner.”

With the 2018 midterms behind us, the country now turns toward the 2020 election cycle, including what is sure to be a hotly contested re-election race for President Trump.

President Trump will continue to be an active and strong campaigner. Potential Democrat candidates, like Sens. Bernie Sanders, Elizabeth Warren, Cory Booker, and Kamala Harris, want to take their party in a radical direction of open borders and single-payer health care.

Other rumored candidates, such as former Vice President Joe Biden and former Virginia Gov. Terry McAuliffe, represent the centrist, pro-business old guard of the Democrat Party. There’s also a chance that Democrats go local and nominate a former young mayor in either Mitch Landrieu from New Orleans or Eric Garcetti from Los Angeles.

Headed into 2020 you'll hear a lot about how the GOP is equally as divided as Democrats. Ignore that. The president’s approval rating is at about 90 percent among Republicans. The “Never Trump” movement is now largely a figment of imagination perpetuated by the flood of former Republican operatives who are paid to make frequent appearances on the networks so they can bash the president and the Republican Party.

Here's the bottom line: Right now, there are too many competing messages and varying factions vying for the Democratic nomination for there to be a clear path to victory in their primaries. Democrat candidates will have to declare their intentions very soon. It will be interesting to see which direction their party chooses to take in trying to defeat a very formidable candidate, and unquestionably the leader of the Republican Party, in President Trump.


Epshteyn also teased in his morning newsletter another “must-run” to be released later today, which will focus on “a potential 2020 presidential run for Hillary Clinton.” Both of these segments will air on an estimated 100 local TV stations nationwide, including in major battleground states.

Epshteyn’s -- and his employer’s -- early shift to 2020 makes perfect sense, since he spent the year leading up to the 2018 elections using his platform to essentially campaign for Republicans. In his “Bottom Line With Boris” segments, he focused specifically on the midterms at least 13 times this year and more broadly made the case for Republican policies countless others. Some segments skipped the usual commentary altogether, instead featuring excerpts from softball interviews he conducted with Trump and five Republican politicians on ballots last week, including Florida Republican gubernatorial candidate Ron DeSantis and newly re-elected Texas Sen. Ted Cruz.

Taking into account Sinclair’s yearlong effort to put its thumb on the scales in 2018 along with its longer history of political meddling during election seasons, local news viewers should unfortunately expect more Trump 2020 messaging on Sinclair stations for the next two years.
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Let us set aside the reality of there being +5,000 "local TV stations nationwide" and focus on the stupidity of this thread's title. How does the OP dispute the fact that the majority of news media are liberal ?

And let us not overlook the irony that your source material for the OP is from mediamatters.com...
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subgenius wrote:Let us set aside the reality of there being +5,000 "local TV stations nationwide" and focus on the stupidity of this thread's title. How does the OP dispute the fact that the majority of news media are liberal ?

Actually, there are only about 360 commercial VHF broadcast stations in the US, of the type that would typically carry this sort of news program/format.

And please explain what statistics or criteria support the claim that “the majority of news media are liberal”.
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I think the mainstream media reflect their owners who contribute to both parties. They've made a lot of money broadcasting the Trump/Russia FUBAR and will probably want to continue to do so. Also, Trump loves the attention as it is good for his brand among enough of the population. Meanwhile, wages will continue to stagnate as our corporate masters add more and more to our monthly expenses. But we can't talk about ending wars, ending monopoly and other important issues. Give 'em bread and circuses while Rome burns ....
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canpakes wrote:
subgenius wrote:Let us set aside the reality of there being +5,000 "local TV stations nationwide" and focus on the stupidity of this thread's title. How does the OP dispute the fact that the majority of news media are liberal ?

Actually, there are only about 360 commercial VHF broadcast stations in the US, of the type that would typically carry this sort of news program/format.

And please explain what statistics or criteria support the claim that “the majority of news media are liberal”.

nope, local stations are local stations so leave the goal posts where he placed them.

as for majority of media...i will assume you can count and that you know the definition of majority.
But how about this as 1 source?

https://www.adfontesmedia.com
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Since reality itself tends to have a strong liberal bias, I have no serious problem with mainstream media tending towards the liberal, if true.
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canpakes wrote:
subgenius wrote:Let us set aside the reality of there being +5,000 "local TV stations nationwide" and focus on the stupidity of this thread's title. How does the OP dispute the fact that the majority of news media are liberal ?

Actually, there are only about 360 commercial VHF broadcast stations in the US, of the type that would typically carry this sort of news program/format.

And please explain what statistics or criteria support the claim that “the majority of news media are liberal”.

subgenius wrote:nope, local stations are local stations so leave the goal posts where he placed them.

The problem isn’t his goal posts. It’s yours. Your number includes thousands of broadcast relay stations, which are not the same as ‘local stations’.

And the former will remotely relay the latter’s output, and doesn’t need to be owned by the same company to do so. So material initially broadcast from a local station can be retransmitted into different markets without need for the same owner to be in control of both broadcast sources.

On top of those problems with your stats, Kevin’s stats for Sinclair’s ownership scope may be on the light side. And Sinclair can make an end run around the law regarding market ownership share through partnering agreements for stations that it sells to friendly entities. More about this from this link:

https://www.vox.com/2018/4/6/17202824/s ... ribune-map

So, you’re wrong from the outset, and through to the conclusion you offer.

subgenius wrote:as for majority of media...i will assume you can count and that you know the definition of majority.
But how about this as 1 source?

https://www.adfontesmedia.com

What about it? Show me what marks ‘the majority’ as liberal, and by what definition of ideological intensity?
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canpakes wrote:The problem isn’t his goal posts. It’s yours. Your number includes thousands of broadcast relay stations, which are not the same as ‘local stations’.

Ok, then let us discard the ambiguity but embrace the hyperbole that KG's 100 stations are the 13% of 761 commercial broadcast local television stations.
59 stations are Fox affiliates, which (even if we assume all stations) leaves paltry numbers for the ABC, NBC, and CBS stations that would broadcast these segments that is clearly noted as commentary. I am willing to assume that Oliver, Bee, Noah, and Maher have larger audiences and market share than these segments will ever realize....but don't let a TV COMMENTARY SEGMENT keep you from a good hair-fire.


canpakes wrote:And the former will remotely relay the latter’s output, and doesn’t need to be owned by the same company to do so. So material initially broadcast from a local station can be retransmitted into different markets without need for the same owner to be in control of both broadcast sources.

Gobbledy gook that relies on your supposition..."can be" is just as easily translated as "will not be" - so no point for you there.

canpakes wrote:On top of those problems with your stats, Kevin’s stats for Sinclair’s ownership scope may be on the light side. And Sinclair can make an end run around the law regarding market ownership share through partnering agreements for stations that it sells to friendly entities. More about this from this link:

https://www.vox.com/2018/4/6/17202824/s ... ribune-map

Gobbledy gook that relies on your supposition..."can " is just as easily translated as "will not" - so no point for you there.

canpakes wrote:So, you’re wrong from the outset, and through to the conclusion you offer.

Funny thing about opinions, they are kinda like television news commentary segments... neither can be proven wrong, but people feel obliged to assume their opinion is not-wrong while others are certainly "wrong from the outset".
But I agree with you, statements of fact and their conclusions can certainly be "wrong"...like the OP and thread title - if one were to consider these as statements of fact then most certainly they are wrong in their collective assertion.

canpakes wrote:
subgenius wrote:as for majority of media...i will assume you can count and that you know the definition of majority.
But how about this as 1 source?

https://www.adfontesmedia.com

What about it? Show me what marks ‘the majority’ as liberal, and by what definition of ideological intensity?

Well there goes my assumption that you could count.
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subs, you can dance around the facts all that you want. It doesn’t change the fact that you’re wrong about your claims.

So now you’re left lumping comedians into the same category as broadcast stations. You could try to demonstrate even greater confusion about the topic, but it’s going to be hard for you to beat that one. That’s even before you show that you have no idea of what your graphic represents. Whatevs.
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canpakes wrote:subs, you can dance around the facts all that you want. It doesn’t change the fact that you’re wrong about your claims.

So now you’re left lumping comedians into the same category as broadcast stations. You could try to demonstrate even greater confusion about the topic, but it’s going to be hard for you to beat that one. That’s even before you show that you have no idea of what your graphic represents. Whatevs.

So to be clear,
your position is that the possibility of 100 local commercial broadcast tv stations to air a commentary news segment is proof of the claim in this thread's title...whereas the less than 15% market coverage of an archaic news environment is undeniably proof that there is no Liberal Media bias....

ok, now i get where you're coming from...a special place of ineptitude previously thought to only be inhabited by Kevin Graham and Hawkeye.
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