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President Donald Trump Lying About One Of Our Great Heroes

Why do Trump supporting morons keep using the "respect the military" line as a justification for their supporting him when he is clearly the most disrespectful President in history in terms of respecting the military.

Now he is upset because William McRaven said Trump's sentiment was the greatest threat to democracy he's seen in his lifetime. Chris Wallace brought this up in a FOX interview and before he could finish his sentence Trump kept interrupting Wallace by insisting McRaven is a "Hillary fan"... a "excuse me, he's a Hillary fan, and a Hillary BACKER."

WTF?

Aside from the obvious question, so the fuq what? The fact is he isn't a Hillary fan at all.

Trump then goes on to make a fool of himself even more by blaming this universally respected and renowned Navy Seal commander for not catching Osama bin Laden earlier than he did. So stupid he doesn't understand that it isn't the SEALS' job to find bin Laden, it was the CIA's job to find him.

“The View” co-host Meghan McCain on Monday tore into President Trump’s criticism of a retired Navy admiral, urging her fellow conservatives to take it more seriously.

McCain listed a number of Trump’s recent actions that have drawn accusations of disrespect toward the military, saying that if former President Obama had done the same, Republicans would have been outraged.

“We should be intellectually honest here at this table that if President Obama had missed Veterans Day or missed the Armistice ceremony in France for the 100th anniversary of World War I, my head would have exploded right here on this table in front of all of you,” she said.

God this guy needs to go, for so many reasons. I'd love to list out all the ways the Right is being hypocritical, but it's an exercise in futility. Trump needs to be impeached and then prosecuted.

- Doc

Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:

“The View” co-host Meghan McCain on Monday tore into President Trump’s criticism of a retired Navy admiral, urging her fellow conservatives to take it more seriously.

McCain listed a number of Trump’s recent actions that have drawn accusations of disrespect toward the military, saying that if former President Obama had done the same, Republicans would have been outraged.

“We should be intellectually honest here at this table that if President Obama had missed Veterans Day or missed the Armistice ceremony in France for the 100th anniversary of World War I, my head would have exploded right here on this table in front of all of you,” she said.

God this guy needs to go, for so many reasons. I'd love to list out all the ways the Right is being hypocritical, but it's an exercise in futility. Trump needs to be impeached and then prosecuted.

- Doc

Maybe vote him out next time. But I don't think being an idiot warrants impeachment. The Russian conspiracy theory story is going on more than two years with nothing linking Trump with Russians. Also, people hated Clinton and Comey's about face didn't help anything. Further, the emails that the dubious Russian hack provided showed the true conspiracy of Clinton, DNC, mainstream media against Sanders. There were a lot of progressives that didn't vote for Clinton as a result.

So, based on what should he be impeached?

The Russian conspiracy theory story is going on more than two years with nothing linking Trump with Russians. Also, people hated Clinton and Comey's about face didn't help anything.

You're playing right into the hands of the extreme Right who keeps propagating this BS. The facts are these:

1. This is precisely what the Nixon defenders were saying during the Watergate investigation.
2. The Watergate investigation lasted years.
3. The Mueller investigation began in the summer of 2017, not "more than two years."
4. Be honest and admit you have no damned clue what Mueller has on Trump in terms of linking him with the Russians.
5. Conspiring with a foreign government to manipulate our Democratic system isn't necessarily the only impeachable offense that Mueller could be looking into.

So, based on what should he be impeached?

I answered this before, like twice, and you just disappeared.

Exiled wrote: I don't think being an idiot warrants impeachment.

Indeed so.

As subgenius has repeatedly pointed out, once you have qualified as a resident native-born citizen of a certain age, the only other box you need to tick to be potential presidential material is not being dead.

I mean, to be an idiot, you at least need to be conscious. That's something ...

Kevin Graham wrote:

The Russian conspiracy theory story is going on more than two years with nothing linking Trump with Russians. Also, people hated Clinton and Comey's about face didn't help anything.

You're playing right into the hands of the extreme Right who keeps propagating this ____. The facts are these:

1. This is precisely what the Nixon defenders were saying during the Watergate investigation.
2. The Watergate investigation lasted years.
3. The Mueller investigation began in the summer of 2017, not "more than two years."
4. Be honest and admit you have no ____ clue what Mueller has on Trump in terms of linking him with the Russians.
5. Conspiring with a foreign government to manipulate our Democratic system isn't necessarily the only impeachable offense that Mueller could be looking into.

So, based on what should he be impeached?

I answered this before, like twice, and you just disappeared.

Mueller has remained tight lipped about his investigation. One would think if he had anything other than satellite issues, he would have disclosed it by now. However, he still could be trying to sweat out his witnesses and the witnesses could be non-cooperative. Even so, the Russian hack never happened. See https://www.mintpressnews.com/intelligence-agenecy-veterans-challenge-russia-hack-evidence/230086/. This is a glaring difference between this and watergate. In watergate, the break-in wasn't questioned by anyone. Here, the retired intelligence professionals thoroughly debunked a hack. Also, and think about this one, if there had been a hack, the NSA would have the evidence. Yet, they haven't provided any. Why? Also, Assange intimated strongly that it was Seth Rich who provided him with the DNC emails and not the Russians. Further still, the emails showed that the DNC, Clinton and the mainstream media were conspiring to undermine Sanders - the true collusion. This should be investigated, too. Frankly, this all seems like a misdirection by a smart criminal lawyer who launches an investigation on the police to deflect his client's guilt.

Maybe the left just needs to face the fact that Clinton lost. She lost because she didn't embrace Sanders' policies, disappointing progressives. She lost because of her email scandal that came up again right before the election when Comey did an about face. She lost because she didn't campaign in key states that shouldn't have gone to Trump (maybe there was some truth to her illness at the time?). People hate her. Progressives felt betrayed and didn't vote for her.

As for playing into the right's narrative, how about we look for the truth and forget how religious thinking and politics unfortunately mix? Trump is the clown that keeps giving, there simply is no need for this dubious Russian investigation. How about putting up a fresh face who is a little more progressive and a little less militaristic and less beholding to wall street? Almost anyone, except Clinton, could easily beat Mr. Clown.

Kevin Graham wrote:I answered this before, like twice, and you just disappeared.

I don't have the time that you do in order to answer your points, point by point.

Oh. Well. God, Exiled. You make it sooooo hard to avoid answering your question when you yourself are so willing to engage in dialogue.

Like I said. It's pointless to discuss anything with a Trumpeteer.

- Doc

A colleague who works for our company is a retired Army LTC. He and I (former USMC E5) have had many discussions over the last two years about his vote for Trump and my vote against Trump.

Trump's antics, especially since the election loss, and his accumulated disrespect for those who honorably served in the military, from John McCain on down, have finally led this colleague to an important conclusion. He now states that he made a mistake voting for Trump.

The fact that Trump dodged military service with magical disappearing bone spurs is all the more galling to those who served. My colleague now (finally) states that he would never vote for Trump or any far right (or in Trump's case, a mentally unbalanced idiot) candidate again.

I will tell the subgeniuses and other Trumpsters of the board Trump's near continual displays of disrespect for the military, active and retired, are costing him.

My Army colleague and I have agreed to a celebration when Trump, and as many of his kin as possible, are no longer in the White House - and hopefully in prison or so tied up in legal actions (criminal and civil) that they spend the rest of their lives in court.

We find range time to be stress relieving. As a part of the celebration, we have agreed to purchase at least 50 rounds of ammunition for each of his more than 50 weapons (except those that use black powder - but still thousands of rounds), make up a few dozen Trumpy targets, and spend a long afternoon with some of our other ex-military colleagues, including a one star, (we are not the only ones who are fed up) shooting the T-targets full of holes at various distances at his farm (in another former confederate State).

This gunapalooza will feature weapons from the collections of several participants including pistols (automatics and revolvers), carbines, shotguns, AR-15s, AK-47s, long rifles, sniper rifles - everything from .22 to .50 cal with lots of 9 mm and .45 cal, a five seven or two, and even a couple of reproduction black powder (steel insert) cannons and mortars that can be legally fired.

He and I have a demonstrated the capability to go through hundreds of rounds in an hour at the range, so a couple of thousand in an afternoon, with the help of some friends, should be no problem.

When we are done, we will go back to his in home armory, have a sip or two of good Kentucky whiskey, clean and secure our weapons, and then see what we can do collectively to help repair the damage to our democracy and country wrought by Trump.
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ETA: For any who recall my posts after the Parkland shooting advocating that there be restrictions on military style rifles that fire supersonic rounds that tend to tumble upon impact resulting in a larger wound cavity and increased tissue damage, my views on that issue have not changed.

I do not own any AR-15 style rifles or any weapon that will fire a supersonic round, and my colleagues understand my view of them, especially when fitted with extended magazines. Those views are shared by many of my ex-military acquaintances who own weapons. These individuals who would be more than willing to submit to additional oversight of these types of weapons by the government if reasonable safeguards and restrictions were instituted.

Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Oh. Well. God, Exiled. You make it sooooo hard to avoid answering your question when you yourself are so willing to engage in dialogue.

Like I said. It's pointless to discuss anything with a Trumpeteer.

- Doc

I'm not a Trumpeteer. I also don't think the Russia investigation will deliver anything. Is it possible to not like Trump but think the Democrats are overplaying the Russia thing?

Take a look at the veteran intelligence professionals for sanity article I cited above. They found that the Russians could not have hacked the DNC server, the main basis for the Russia story. It completely dismantles it. The download speeds were too fast to have gone over the internet. Also, the NSA records everything. Why hasn't the NSA simply turned over what it has to Mueller, if there really was a hack? (Of course he hasn't told us everything he has, maybe like the Schriver Book of Abraham secret paper?)

See, I'm engaging you .......

Here is the link I cited above: https://www.mintpressnews.com/intelligence-agenecy-veterans-challenge-russia-hack-evidence/230086/