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Proof Trump is Dumb as a Stump

Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2018 8:12 pm
by _Kevin Graham
While Doc, bach and the other idiots are spending so much of their time attacking the intelligence of a minority female (surprise!), I thought it was worth remembering that this country has a far greater problem than the questioned intelligence of an relatively obscure, freshman congresswoman from New York.

To the point, we have the dumbest damned President in history sitting in the White House, or more likely, in his golf cart. The mountain of examples of his stupidity are just too many for anyone to recall off hand since his campaign days. One stupid remark gets overshadowed with another that is just as or more stupid than the previous remark. But here is a rough list of the ones that come to mind, feel free to add your own.

"If you buy, you know, a box of cereal, if you do anything, you have a voter ID. … The only thing you don’t is if you’re a voter of the United States."

Frederick Douglass is "an example of somebody who's done an amazing job and is being recognized more and more, I notice." Frederick Douglass died in 1895.

“So preexisting conditions are a tough deal. Because you are basically saying from the moment the insurance, you’re 21 years old, you start working and you’re paying $12 a year for insurance, and by the time you’re 70, you get a nice plan. Here’s something where you walk up and say, 'I want my insurance.' It’s a very tough deal, but it is something that we’re doing a good job of.” While it’s difficult to parse exactly what Trump means, it would appear that he conflated health insurance with life insurance, or social security.

Trump arriving to Israel from Egypt, saying he just returned from the middle-east! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6b2VQTEjcQE

"I mean had Andrew Jackson been a little bit later you wouldn't have had the Civil War. " - Andrew Jackson died in 1845, 16 years before the Civil War began in 1861.

Buzz Aldrin's reaction to Trump's idiotic speech on space exploration: "At some point in the future we'll look back and say how did we do it without space?" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HGFcC5IZyvs

“I told [President Xi] that we’ve just launched 59 missiles heading to Iraq,” he told Bartiromo. The Fox anchor quickly corrected him, “Heading toward Syria.” “Yes, heading toward Syria,” replied Trump.- https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-m ... ake-583136

From the White House Pool Report: "At approximately 2:39, the President initially gesticulated to the crowd below and pointed at the sky. As he did so, one of the White House aides standing beneath the Blue Room Balcony shouted, 'Don't look.'" The Leader of the Free World ignored the time-honored advice. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CH32aHLhK8U

Notes left at Yad Vashem, Israel's Holocaust memorial museum proved embarassing to say the least. https://Twitter.com/brianklaas/status/8 ... 5735769088

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It shouldn't be surprising that so many of his closest associates have reportedly called him out for his low intelligence.

In the summer of 2017, Secretary of State Rex Tillerson reportedly called Trump “a damned moron.”

Later in 2017, five sources reported that National Security Adviser H.R. McMaster described Trump to his dining companions as an “idiot,” a “dope,” and compared his mental capacity to that of a kindergartner.

In April 2018, NBC reported that chief of staff John kelly had called Trump an “idiot."

National Economic Council director Gary Cohn said Trump was “dumb as crap.”

And then we have a litany of tweets that contained misspellings and poor grammar, many of which were "corrected" with second and third failed attempts.

Trump on Puerto Rico: “this is an island sitting in the middle of an ocean. And it’s a big ocean; it’s a very big ocean...”

Trump on climate: “And when you’re talking about an atmosphere, oceans are very small.”

Re: Proof Trump is Dumb as a Stump

Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2018 11:28 pm
by _Dr. Shades
Kevin Graham wrote:Frederick Douglass is "an example of somebody who's done an amazing job and is being recognized more and more, I notice." Frederick Douglass died in 1895.

In FAIRness, it's possible to recognize someone after he or she has died. Gregor Mendel, for example.

"I mean had Andrew Jackson been a little bit later you wouldn't have had the Civil War. " - Andrew Jackson died in 1845, 16 years before the Civil War began in 1861.

Again, in FAIRness, although it's no longer possible to know for sure, if Andrew Jackson had indeed been president in 1861 as opposed to his presidency ending in 1837 (i.e., if Jackson had been born 24 years later and therefore been president 24 years later), Trump's statement may have proven correct.

Re: Proof Trump is Dumb as a Stump

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 2:49 pm
by _Chap
Dr. Shades wrote:
Kevin Graham wrote:Frederick Douglass is "an example of somebody who's done an amazing job and is being recognized more and more, I notice." Frederick Douglass died in 1895.


In FAIRness, it's possible to recognize someone after he or she has died. Gregor Mendel, for example.


Oh, it certainly a theoretical possibility that Trump did not think Douglass was still alive.

But in that case, any normal native speaker of English would have said Douglass was an example of "an example of somebody WHO DID an amazing job".

Given Trump's notorious ignorance, I think the smart money has to be on Trump thinking that Douglass was some kind of famous 21st century black guy whom he might one day see on a Fox News chat-show.

Re: Proof Trump is Dumb as a Stump

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 3:46 pm
by _moksha
Dr. Shades wrote:Again, in FAIRness, although it's no longer possible to know for sure, if Andrew Jackson had indeed been president in 1861 as opposed to his presidency ending in 1837 (i.e., if Jackson had been born 24 years later and therefore been president 24 years later), Trump's statement may have proven correct.

Sort of like Chiang Kai-shek taming the Mongol Horde if not for those intervening years.

Re: Proof Trump is Dumb as a Stump

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 5:42 pm
by _Kevin Graham
Dr. Shades wrote:
Kevin Graham wrote:Frederick Douglass is "an example of somebody who's done an amazing job and is being recognized more and more, I notice." Frederick Douglass died in 1895.

In FAIRness, it's possible to recognize someone after he or she has died. Gregor Mendel, for example.


Not likely what he was saying otherwise he would have just said he "did" an amazing job.

"Has done an amazing job" is in the present perfect tense. This means an action that started in the past and continues to the present. It is not possible for someone to be doing something in the present when he died years ago.

Re: Proof Trump is Dumb as a Stump

Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2018 8:11 pm
by _Dr. Shades
moksha wrote:Sort of like Chiang Kai-shek taming the Mongol Horde if not for those intervening years.

Technically yes, but it wasn't me who said it.

Chap wrote:But in that case, any normal native speaker of English would have said Douglass was an example of "an example of somebody WHO DID an amazing job".

Kevin Graham wrote:"Has done an amazing job" is in the present perfect tense. This means an action that started in the past and continues to the present. It is not possible for someone to be doing something in the present when he died years ago.

Point taken.