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Obama on Russia: Who can’t Forget!
Posted: Fri Apr 19, 2019 11:09 pm
by _Bach
Why did Obama always “miss it”?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=N0IWe11RWOMSo appropriate now and even more with what is coming down the pipe!
[Shades, can you PM me if there is a reason EA won’t post this]
Re: Obama on Russia: Who can’t Forget!
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 6:27 am
by _Dr. Shades
NO.
Re: Obama on Russia: Who can’t Forget!
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 7:01 am
by _moksha
What was President Obama supposedly missing? Did you unintentionally post the wrong video clip?
Re: Obama on Russia: Who can’t Forget!
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 12:31 pm
by _Some Schmo
Bach wrote:Why did Obama always “miss it”?
Why are your posts always stupid?
Re: Obama on Russia: Who can’t Forget!
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 12:52 pm
by _Chap
In military and economic terms, Russia is certainly nothing like a potential direct adversary to the US with the ability to bring real force to bear in confrontation with the US itself or with those allies that the US must support in order to protect is core interests. That kind of threat lies elsewhere - sometimes in the kind of asymmetric warfare conducted by a series of Islamist groups, most recently DAESH, and perhaps in the future the PRC.
It is precisely because of its inability to confront the US directly as it once did that Russia is devoting resources to subverting the political processes of the US and other advanced western countries. It's the ideological equivalent of germ warfare, it's cheap, and it's hard to detect. One of their great recent successes was of course the election of Donald Trump, who together with his team openly welcomed the assistance he got from Russian state surrogates, and (contrary to the unanimous advice of his intelligence services) has said he accepts Putin's denials of Russian interference. He also, as we know, lied about having had any Russian business deals in contemplation, when as we now know he was planning a Trump Tower in Moscow with a penthouse suite for Putin on top of it. Obama is not the problem ...
Re: Obama on Russia: Who can’t Forget!
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 2:37 pm
by _Dr Exiled
These Russian operatives should become campaign consultants. They only had to spend $100,000 on Facebook ads and $8,000.00 on Google against the almost $Billion Clinton had in her coffers and they were able to beat her. Is the American public that gullible or is it something else that caused Clinton to lose? Oh yeah, these Russians supposedly got emails that told the truth about Clinton and how she was really beholden to Wall Street and conspired with the DNC against Sanders.
Re: Obama on Russia: Who can’t Forget!
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 2:40 pm
by _Some Schmo
Exiled wrote:Is the American public that gullible or is it something else that caused Clinton to lose?
No, the American public (especially Trump's base) is embarrassingly gullible.
Re: Obama on Russia: Who can’t Forget!
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 2:58 pm
by _Maksutov
The whataboutism has reached a fever pitch since the report.
Re: Obama on Russia: Who can’t Forget!
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 3:00 pm
by _Markk
Chap Wrote...In military and economic terms, Russia is certainly nothing like a potential direct adversary to the US with the ability to bring real force to bear in confrontation with the US itself or with those allies that the US must support in order to protect is core interests. That kind of threat lies elsewhere - sometimes in the kind of asymmetric warfare conducted by a series of Islamist groups, most recently DAESH, and perhaps in the future the PRC.
It is precisely because of its inability to confront the US directly as it once did that Russia is devoting resources to subverting the political processes of the US and other advanced western countries. It's the ideological equivalent of germ warfare, it's cheap, and it's hard to detect. One of their great recent successes was of course the election of Donald Trump, who together with his team openly welcomed the assistance he got from Russian state surrogates, and (contrary to the unanimous advice of his intelligence services) has said he accepts Putin's denials of Russian interference. He also, as we know, lied about having had any Russian business deals in contemplation, when as we now know he was planning a Trump Tower in Moscow with a penthouse suite for Putin on top of it. Obama is not the problem ...
So you figured out Russia tries to subvert our geopolitical agenda , but Obama's White House couldn't? Also like you, Romney figured it out. The clip begs the question; what was Obama's understanding of Russia...did he think they were stagnant and incapable of undermining out global agendas? Shall be just write this off as "O'well we missed that one?"
Apart from anything Trump may have done, or not done, Obama dropped the ball, and left the door open for any Russian subversion.
Their greatest success was planting a seed, that folks are running with to tear our previous political climate to shreds.
In effect, Trump promised to drain the swamp, which is happening before our eyes, however I am not sure Trump is doing this, at least directly, it seems that it is imploding from within becasue of the hate folks have for Trump. Putin is sitting at his desk, with his legs crossed on the desk, laughing his rear off.
Re: Obama on Russia: Who can’t Forget!
Posted: Sat Apr 20, 2019 3:03 pm
by _moksha
Exiled wrote:These Russian operatives should become campaign consultants. They only had to spend $100,000 on Facebook ads and $8,000.00 on Google against the almost $Billion Clinton had in her coffers and they were able to beat her.
They were able to embed a Kremlin Candidate in the White House, so bad on us that they could appeal to our base nature. Fooled us once, but we might be more on guard next time.