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Epstein's Game
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So, apologies in advance, but I want to do a quick little THREAD to explain my theory of what the Epstein story really is. I promise this isn't some crazy Pizzagate conspiracy about space lizards, just a neat little explanation that in my opinion perfectly fits the known facts (0/13):
(1/13) Let's take as our starting points two givens.
(A.) You are a committed, unrepentant pedophile
(B.) Because of your old job in private banking, you are very connected to lots of very, very wealthy people
We'll also assume a goal:
(Z.) You want to become very rich
(2/13) The obvious route is, well, obvious: you could just be a pimp, offering underage prostitute services to very rich people. This has two problems: you're very disposable (see: DC madam), and it's also not super lucrative. You can't charge millions of dollars up front.
(3/13) The second level though follows instantly: You don't need to charge up front, just get them to have underage sex, and then blackmail them afterwards for hush money. Better ROI, but you're still a liability, and producing and receiving big bribe money raises big questions.
(4/13) So, what to do? Well, the second idea has some merits. First, you need to recruit people in. Have lots of massive parties at your spacious home (check), invite top academics, artists, politicians to encourage people to come (check), and supply lots of young women (check)
(5/13) You don't even have to do anything, and most people invited might even be totally unaware of the real purpose of the parties! But, sooner or later, some billionaire will get handsy, she'll escort him to a room with a hidden camera, things happen. Morning after, you strike.
(6/13) You inform him she was really 15, but you offer him a nice, neat way to buy your silence: a large allocation to your hedge fund, which charges 2/20 (check). To ensure nobody else asks questions, you also take the extraordinary step of demanding power of attorney (check)
(7/13) The fund is offshore in a tax haven (check) and nobody will see the client list (check). Of course, you don't really know anything about investing, instead making up some nonsense about currency trading (check), and nobody on Wall Street has ever traded with you (check)
(8/13) The fund itself doesn't need investment personnel (check), only some back office people to process the wires (check). You don't want to money from non-pedophiles, or they'll notice you've just put it in a S&P 500 fund, so you reject all incoming inquiries (check)
(9/13) A $20 million wire from Billionaire X to you with no obvious reason will raise many questions, and the IRS will certainly want to know what you did to warrant it. A $5 million quarterly fee for managing $1 billion in assets? Nobody bats an eye.
(10/13) Because of this structure, you're extraordinarily secretive about client lists (check) because they aren't clients, they're pedophiles paying you bribes, and they also are very secretive, which is why no letters or return streams ever leak (check)
(11/13) Occasionally you may also try this trick on other people: important political figures, mayors, prosecutors, etc. They don't invest in the fund, but it's nice to have them in your pocket. Others (academics, artists, etc.) can just be bought with money as a PR smokescreen.
(12/13) And, of course, the scam can be kept going as long as people are willing to pay, which is forever. If you're ever caught, just lean on some of your other friends in government to lean on the prosecutor to get you a sweetheart deal. There's almost zero risk.
(13/13) And the last piece of the puzzle is the evidence. You'd want it somewhere remote, but accessible: a place the US can't touch but you have an excuse to visit all the time to update. Remember that offshore fund?
I bet there's a *very* interesting safe deposit box there.
Two small points of clarification:
1. This scheme works just as well if the billionaires are in on it from the getgo as a way to buy sex; I assumed that was obvious but I guess not.
2. There’s no need to invoke the Mafia/Russia/Mossad/CIA/etc, that’s just needlessly overfitting.
Quantian
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4 days ago, 16 tweets, 3 min read Read on Twitter
So, apologies in advance, but I want to do a quick little THREAD to explain my theory of what the Epstein story really is. I promise this isn't some crazy Pizzagate conspiracy about space lizards, just a neat little explanation that in my opinion perfectly fits the known facts (0/13):
(1/13) Let's take as our starting points two givens.
(A.) You are a committed, unrepentant pedophile
(B.) Because of your old job in private banking, you are very connected to lots of very, very wealthy people
We'll also assume a goal:
(Z.) You want to become very rich
(2/13) The obvious route is, well, obvious: you could just be a pimp, offering underage prostitute services to very rich people. This has two problems: you're very disposable (see: DC madam), and it's also not super lucrative. You can't charge millions of dollars up front.
(3/13) The second level though follows instantly: You don't need to charge up front, just get them to have underage sex, and then blackmail them afterwards for hush money. Better ROI, but you're still a liability, and producing and receiving big bribe money raises big questions.
(4/13) So, what to do? Well, the second idea has some merits. First, you need to recruit people in. Have lots of massive parties at your spacious home (check), invite top academics, artists, politicians to encourage people to come (check), and supply lots of young women (check)
(5/13) You don't even have to do anything, and most people invited might even be totally unaware of the real purpose of the parties! But, sooner or later, some billionaire will get handsy, she'll escort him to a room with a hidden camera, things happen. Morning after, you strike.
(6/13) You inform him she was really 15, but you offer him a nice, neat way to buy your silence: a large allocation to your hedge fund, which charges 2/20 (check). To ensure nobody else asks questions, you also take the extraordinary step of demanding power of attorney (check)
(7/13) The fund is offshore in a tax haven (check) and nobody will see the client list (check). Of course, you don't really know anything about investing, instead making up some nonsense about currency trading (check), and nobody on Wall Street has ever traded with you (check)
(8/13) The fund itself doesn't need investment personnel (check), only some back office people to process the wires (check). You don't want to money from non-pedophiles, or they'll notice you've just put it in a S&P 500 fund, so you reject all incoming inquiries (check)
(9/13) A $20 million wire from Billionaire X to you with no obvious reason will raise many questions, and the IRS will certainly want to know what you did to warrant it. A $5 million quarterly fee for managing $1 billion in assets? Nobody bats an eye.
(10/13) Because of this structure, you're extraordinarily secretive about client lists (check) because they aren't clients, they're pedophiles paying you bribes, and they also are very secretive, which is why no letters or return streams ever leak (check)
(11/13) Occasionally you may also try this trick on other people: important political figures, mayors, prosecutors, etc. They don't invest in the fund, but it's nice to have them in your pocket. Others (academics, artists, etc.) can just be bought with money as a PR smokescreen.
(12/13) And, of course, the scam can be kept going as long as people are willing to pay, which is forever. If you're ever caught, just lean on some of your other friends in government to lean on the prosecutor to get you a sweetheart deal. There's almost zero risk.
(13/13) And the last piece of the puzzle is the evidence. You'd want it somewhere remote, but accessible: a place the US can't touch but you have an excuse to visit all the time to update. Remember that offshore fund?
I bet there's a *very* interesting safe deposit box there.
Two small points of clarification:
1. This scheme works just as well if the billionaires are in on it from the getgo as a way to buy sex; I assumed that was obvious but I guess not.
2. There’s no need to invoke the Mafia/Russia/Mossad/CIA/etc, that’s just needlessly overfitting.
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Re: Epstein's Game
Good timing, Makustov.
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In case you were wondering Mr. Acosta was serving as the United States attorney for the Southern District of Florida when he intervened to defend Epstein against these charges and brokered a sweetheart deal. His position in the Trump admin is nothing but an embarrassment to this country and reeks of suspicion with Donald's ties to Epstein, see below.
“Jane Doe” alleges Donald Trump sexually assaulted her on four separate occasions, culminating in a rape when she was just 13 at Jeffrey Epstein’s mansion.
Her evidence? Three sworn declarations – from her, a friend she confided in at the time, AND one of Epstein’s recruiters.
This case was filed in New York federal court in 2016. You can read her pleading here The case was NOT dismissed. Jane withdrew her complaint on November 4, 2016, saying she was “afraid to show her face” due to “numerous threats” against her.
Jane came to New York in June 1994 “in the hope of starting a modeling career.” She soon met "Tiffany," who offered to bring her to parties where she could meet folks in the business - hosted by Epstein.
This is eerily similar to tales of recruiters in MiamiHerald's reporting.
Jane claims Trump had “sexual contact" with her at four parties she attended that summer. She understood both Trump and Epstein "knew that [she] was 13 years old.”
The fourth time, she says "Trump tied me to a bed, exposed himself to me, and then proceeded to forcibly rape me."
Jane claims a 12-year-old named Maria was forced to be involved in the third encounter. She never saw Maria again after that.
Following the rape, Jane says Trump threatened to hurt her and her family if she ever told anyone. He suggested he could make her “disappear like Maria.”
Jane is not the only witness offered in this filing. A woman using the pseudonym “Joan Doe” attests that she is willing to testify that Jane told her about the sexual encounters with Trump and Epstein “in the 1994-95 school year.”
Here is her sworn declaration
Jane also filed a sworn declaration from Tiffany, who says Epstein employed her starting in 1991 “to get attractive adolescent women to attend these parties.” Tiffany corroborates Jane’s story and claims to have “personally witnessed” the four encounters between Jane and Trump.
Tiffany also claims she personally witnessed the “one occasion where Mr. Trump forced [Jane] and a 12-year-old female named Maria [to] perform oral sex” on him. She also claims to have witnessed Trump’s later threats against Jane.
Tiffany says she worked for Epstein until 2000.
Trump admits to a close friendship with Epstein. He told New York magazine in 2002:
“I’ve known Jeff for fifteen years. Terrific guy...it is even said that he likes beautiful women as much as I do, and many of them are on the younger side.”
MotherJones' description of Trump's modeling agency is eerily similar to parts of Epstein's scheme as well.
Though there is less reporting on this, Trump seems to have illegally brought girls as young as 14 to the U.S. to work uncompensated. Sounds a lot like trafficking, no?
Flash forward to 2007. Epstein is being prosecuted for “assembling a large, cult-like network of underage girls – with the help of young female recruiters.”
The prosecutor? Future Trump Labor Secretary, Alex Acosta.
Epstein’s attorney? Future Trump mouthpiece, Alan Dershowitz.
According to the MiamiHerald report this week, Acosta worked with Dershowitz to give Epstein a sweetheart deal - just 13 months in county jail.
Perhaps more egregious, Acosta "granted immunity to 'any potential co-conspirators’" in these crimes.
This unusual move not only exempts Trump from criminal prosecution for raping Jane Doe. It also protects Dershowitz.
Virginia Roberts claims Alan had sex with her "six times...the first time was when I was about 16, early on in my servitude to Epstein.’’
Ten years after Acosta coddled Epstein and gave immunity to his co-conspirators, Trump appointed Acosta Secretary of Labor.
If you recall, Acosta replaced Andrew Puzder, who was charged with serious domestic abuse.
Abusive behavior is not the exception here. It is the rule.
I have no way of verifying Jane's claims. But three sworn declarations filed in federal court ARE evidence. Congruence with details in the MiamiHerald and multiple ties to Trump's' inner circle add credibility.
At the very least, Jane must be heard. We all deserve the truth.
Here is more on Epstein that matches details in the MiamiHerald reports: being forced to give him massages, Epstein forcing digital penetration, his irritation at her protests, etc.
Listen to her voice. Listen to her story.
Here she recounts her first encounter with Trump when she was 13. Her description matches his known idiosyncrasies and germophobia:
He required her to touch him with a glove.
"He seemed to take a liking to me because I was so young...he kind of liked things to be his first."
"Donald Trump specifically asked about me because I remind him of his daughter, and she said, 'Well, she's 13 as well.'"
I know we avoid seriously discussing this because it is disturbing beyond comprehension. But we all know what Trump has said about Ivanka.
This. Adds. Up.
You can watch her full recorded testimony here It is dated February 11, 2016.
Based on all of the details we now know, her story is very credible. It is past time we confront this as a nation.
Edit: I just have to add this recent news that broke two days ago that Trump Hosted Party With Jeffrey Epstein and ‘28 Girls,’ Report Claims is a a big ass exclamation point on all of this.
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Re: Epstein's Game
I don't believe everything I read right out of the gate but these guys are dirty AF. The reddit material screams quid pro quo.
Just for general purposes, I'd like to see the victims polygraphed. I think that would help to further influence public opinion although inadmissible in court.
And I will say this again. Back when I was trying to give Trump the benefit of the doubt, Lemmie said Trump was a pig.
Lemmie was right.
Just for general purposes, I'd like to see the victims polygraphed. I think that would help to further influence public opinion although inadmissible in court.
And I will say this again. Back when I was trying to give Trump the benefit of the doubt, Lemmie said Trump was a pig.
Lemmie was right.
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Re: Epstein's Game
Jane claims a 12-year-old named Maria was forced to be involved in the third encounter. She never saw Maria again after that.
Following the rape, Jane says Trump threatened to hurt her and her family if she ever told anyone. He suggested he could make her “disappear like Maria.”
Even if the remains of Maria were found along with forensic evidence from Trump, his supporters would not care and Trump would surge ahead to new heights in Republican polling. Lincoln would need to go on a crime spree to catch up in Republican popularity.
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Jersey Girl wrote:And I will say this again. Back when I was trying to give Trump the benefit of the doubt, Lemmie said Trump was a pig.
Lemmie was right.
So right! It is almost incomprehensible to me how any who even halfway try to keep up with current events are still willing to give Trump the benefit of the doubt.
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moksha wrote:Jane claims a 12-year-old named Maria was forced to be involved in the third encounter. She never saw Maria again after that.
Following the rape, Jane says Trump threatened to hurt her and her family if she ever told anyone. He suggested he could make her “disappear like Maria.”
Even if the remains of Maria were found along with forensic evidence from Trump, his supporters would not care and Trump would surge ahead to new heights in Republican polling. Lincoln would need to go on a crime spree to catch up in Republican popularity.
Given statements I have heard from some diehard Trump fans, it is hard to avoid that conclusion. It is both remarkable and depressing how many Trumpists I have actually heard unabashedly and even proudly admitted that they would continue to support Trump, even if he walked out on a busy street and randomly shot a few people.
I have even seen videos of female Trump supporters wearing t-shirts or sweat shirts imprinted with "Trump can grab my. . ." with arrows pointing to their crotches!
No precept or claim is more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.
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moksha wrote:Jane claims a 12-year-old named Maria was forced to be involved in the third encounter. She never saw Maria again after that.
Following the rape, Jane says Trump threatened to hurt her and her family if she ever told anyone. He suggested he could make her “disappear like Maria.”
Even if the remains of Maria were found along with forensic evidence from Trump, his supporters would not care and Trump would surge ahead to new heights in Republican polling. Lincoln would need to go on a crime spree to catch up in Republican popularity.
The pee tape could come out, with the Cheeto-in-Chief getting mogged by Putin himself, and Trump supporters would comment on how wonderfully hydrated Vladimir is.
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Re: Epstein's Game
well, the tin foil hats came out awfully quick.
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on a side note, anyone notice that California doesn't have a minimum age required for marriage?
but hey, who even cares about institutionalized statutory rape in the 5th largest economy, blah blah
but hey, who even cares about institutionalized statutory rape in the 5th largest economy, blah blah
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subgenius wrote:on a side note, anyone notice that California doesn't have a minimum age required for marriage?
but hey, who even cares about institutionalized statutory rape in the 5th largest economy, blah blah
So, democrats are somehow pedos now? One must have parental and judicial consent to marry when under 18 in CA. Thttps://codes.findlaw.com/ca/family-code/fam-sect-302.html
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