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While Russia's interference strategy in the American Presidential election was successful, I am wondering if at some point Putin will conclude that he backed the stupid horse that keeps running into the stall. You would think he would shift his machinery to Mike Pense or some other Republican candidate, right?

moksha wrote:While Russia's interference strategy in the American Presidential election was successful, I am wondering if at some point Putin will conclude that he backed the stupid horse that keeps running into the stall. You would think he would shift his machinery to Mike Pense or some other Republican candidate, right?

What exactly do you think was the motivation for any Russian interference? Do you glean all your global political insights from movies? or do you also rely on Tom Clancy?

subgenius wrote:What exactly do you think was the motivation for any Russian interference?

Promoting an American descent into idiocy.

As example, the Putin/Trump tag team have you knocking what you erroneously believe ‘western liberalism’ to be. They’re getting a two-fer from your ignorance and accedence to their agenda.

subgenius wrote:

moksha wrote:While Russia's interference strategy in the American Presidential election was successful, I am wondering if at some point Putin will conclude that he backed the stupid horse that keeps running into the stall. You would think he would shift his machinery to Mike Pense or some other Republican candidate, right?

What exactly do you think was the motivation for any Russian interference? Do you glean all your global political insights from movies? or do you also rely on Tom Clancy?

Getting sanctions removed, which Trump repeatedly tried to do. Weakening relationships among US allies and NATO, which Trump successfully did. Weakening America and and sowing chaos, which Trump succeeded at. Weakening our diplomatic and administrative structures, which Trump did.

canpakes wrote:

subgenius wrote:What exactly do you think was the motivation for any Russian interference?

Promoting an American descent into idiocy.

As example, the Putin/Trump tag team have you knocking what you erroneously believe ‘western liberalism’ to be. They’re getting a two-fer from your ignorance and accedence to their agenda.

um, again....what is their motivation for this "descension"?....or are you cribbing from a Rocky/Bullwinkle episode?

Gray Ghost wrote:
Getting sanctions removed, which Trump repeatedly tried to do. Weakening relationships among US allies and NATO, which Trump successfully did. Weakening America and and sowing chaos, which Trump succeeded at. Weakening our diplomatic and administrative structures, which Trump did.

Nope, Trump has actually increased sanctions and been the toughest President on Russia since cold war...all of which makes you unaware of the topic and unaware of the difference between rhetoric and policy...move along.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/04/13/tr ... an-obamas/
https://www.npr.org/2018/07/20/63065937 ... -on-russia

subgenius wrote:

Gray Ghost wrote:
Getting sanctions removed, which Trump repeatedly tried to do. Weakening relationships among US allies and NATO, which Trump successfully did. Weakening America and and sowing chaos, which Trump succeeded at. Weakening our diplomatic and administrative structures, which Trump did.

Nope, Trump has actually increased sanctions and been the toughest President on Russia since cold war...all of which makes you unaware of the topic and unaware of the difference between rhetoric and policy...move along.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/04/13/tr ... an-obamas/
https://www.npr.org/2018/07/20/63065937 ... -on-russia

Trump was forced into it kicking and screaming. Fact. Off you trot.

Have you looked up the definition of western liberalism yet?

subgenius wrote:um, again....what is their motivation for this "descension"?....or are you cribbing from a Rocky/Bullwinkle episode?

Wow. You don’t know what the word means. Looks like your descent is further along than I imagined.

I’ll stick that on the list of things that you’re struggling with, next to ‘western liberalism’. In the meantime, you might want to stop streaming cartoons at work.

Gray Ghost wrote:

subgenius wrote:Nope, Trump has actually increased sanctions and been the toughest President on Russia since cold war...all of which makes you unaware of the topic and unaware of the difference between rhetoric and policy...move along.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/04/13/tr ... an-obamas/
https://www.npr.org/2018/07/20/63065937 ... -on-russia

Trump was forced into it kicking and screaming. Fact. Off you trot.

He’s been schooled on that one before, too, after claiming credit to Trump for sanctions in place before he even took office.

I don’t know if he does this for reasons of stupidity, or mendacity.

moksha wrote:While Russia's interference strategy in the American Presidential election was successful, I am wondering if at some point Putin will conclude that he backed the stupid horse that keeps running into the stall. You would think he would shift his machinery to Mike Pense or some other Republican candidate, right?

The stupid horse is what Putin wants, so he will again help Trump in his reelection bid. Putin have gotten much of what he hoped for. America and the west is weaker, less united, and there is more movement of countries into Russia's as well as China's sphere of influence around the world. It's extremely important for the future of the US and free world that Trump not be reelected.