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Re: 8 Years of suffering under Obama.

Posted: Tue Jul 30, 2019 9:32 pm
by _aussieguy55
And the tan suit disgusting

Re: 8 Years of suffering under Obama.

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 1:33 am
by _Gunnar
moksha wrote:I think we need to acknowledge that Republicans will say anything, even if most of it does not hold water. Think of it as either apologetics or talking points from Moscow.

Ain't that the truth! It is incredible what rationalizations and excuses they come up with! Like, for example, Trump taking credit for "VA Choice legislation co-sponsored by John McCain and signed into law by President Obama, before Trump even ran for President, while maligning McCain for having done nothing to help veterans. https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-mccain-lie_n_5d0bf70ce4b0aa375f49d27c

“For him the truth is no better than a lie, and if it doesn’t serve his ego when a lie will, then the lie is preferable to the truth,” Salter said. “That’s his only value: Does it serve his ego or not.”

Re: 8 Years of suffering under Obama.

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 1:43 am
by _subgenius
canpakes wrote:There you go again. Playing the fool, or the liar. Obama didn’t ban incandescent light bulbs, considering that you can still buy them at the store. and considering that the legislation you’re attempting to link him to as the cause “was passed by Congress and signed by President George W. Bush in 2007”.

https://www.epa.gov/cfl/how-energy-inde ... ight-bulbs

Congratulations on publicly tossing yourself on the broiler yet again in your quest to make yourself look as untruthful or stupid as possible, because your handlers told you to do as you’re told. Geez. : )

Yeah, you're soooo right, what was i thinking? do not click this lest i be so embarassed

Re: 8 Years of suffering under Obama.

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 1:55 am
by _canpakes
subgenius wrote:
canpakes wrote:There you go again. Playing the fool, or the liar. Obama didn’t ban incandescent light bulbs, considering that you can still buy them at the store. and considering that the legislation you’re attempting to link him to as the cause “was passed by Congress and signed by President George W. Bush in 2007”.

https://www.epa.gov/cfl/how-energy-inde ... ight-bulbs

Congratulations on publicly tossing yourself on the broiler yet again in your quest to make yourself look as untruthful or stupid as possible, because your handlers told you to do as you’re told. Geez. : )

Yeah, you're soooo right, what was i thinking? do not click this lest i be so embarassed

Lol. Not only are you a liar, but you’re a liar that can’t read.

Pretty much the first words from your link:

“Way back in October 2007, candidate Barack Obama pledged to "immediately sign a law that begins to phase out all incandescent light bulbs." About two months later, President George W. Bush signed a bill to do that -- the Energy Independence and Security Act of 2007.”

Does that differ from what I said? No.

Does it prove that you lied about Obama banning light bulbs? Yes.

Sorry, subs. Even your own source contradicts you. Try not to go all in on making yourself look like a moron.

Re: 8 Years of suffering under Obama.

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:06 pm
by _aussieguy55
https://www.rawstory.com/2019/07/daught ... my-father/

It seems the daughter of segregationist George Wallace thinks Trump is worse than her father. I remember a picture of Wallace standing in front of a school door to stop a black student from enrolling.
Didn't Trump stop blacks moving in some housing he owned? Trump violated the fair housing act . He refused to rent to black tenants

Re: 8 Years of suffering under Obama.

Posted: Wed Jul 31, 2019 9:31 pm
by _Doctor CamNC4Me
Dr. Shades wrote:[MODERATOR NOTE: Ceeboo, Universal Rule #10 of this message board reads,

Do not EVER "link-and-run." If you post a link to something, always explain what's at the other end of the link, why it's important, and what you hope other readers / viewers learn from it. RULE OF THUMB: If it's not worth your time to describe it, then it's not worth our time to click on it.

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Re: 8 Years of suffering under Obama.

Posted: Fri Aug 02, 2019 9:44 pm
by _aussieguy55
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/08/01/opin ... 2zrdYhXiAA

One might ask are you really going to suffer under 8 years of Trump. If Trump brings jobs back to the US are those workers going to have to take a pay cut to equal the wages of those who produced in Asia? If more cars are built in the US will the buyers be able to secure a car loan on those reduced wages?

https://www.businessinsider.com.au/us-b ... &r=US&IR=T

What is the solution to this? Cut social security and food stamps? Small business which provide the food etc to these folks will suffer.

https://markets.businessinsider.com/new ... jwfwaqm9qi

It seems the farmers are now complaining about lost markets forever to Russia (wheat) and Brazil (pork). Has Trump and his Commerce Secretary really thought this through?

Re: 8 Years of suffering under Obama.

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 7:30 am
by _Gunnar
The incredible stupidity of Trump doubling down on the claim that China, and not American citizens and consumers and farmers and small businesses, will somehow pay the tariffs he is imposing, is mind boggling!

Re: 8 Years of suffering under Obama.

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 11:47 am
by _Gunnar
subgenius wrote:
canpakes wrote:There you go again. Playing the fool, or the liar. Obama didn’t ban incandescent light bulbs, considering that you can still buy them at the store. and considering that the legislation you’re attempting to link him to as the cause “was passed by Congress and signed by President George W. Bush in 2007”.

https://www.epa.gov/cfl/how-energy-inde ... ight-bulbs

Congratulations on publicly tossing yourself on the broiler yet again in your quest to make yourself look as untruthful or stupid as possible, because your handlers told you to do as you’re told. Geez. : )

Yeah, you're soooo right, what was i thinking? do not click this lest i be so embarassed

So what is wrong with encouraging switching to LED light bulbs? You act as if there were something sinister and evil about encouraging their use! Given the fact that they use so much less energy, last so much longer and pay for themselves many times over with the energy saved, one would have to be an idiot to not switch to them, whether they are mandated or not! And this is true whether or not climate change is a hoax! Refusing to switch to them because the government encourages or incentivizes their use is as stupid as insisting on repeatedly hitting yourself on the head with a hammer just because someone you don't like told you not to!

Why is this even an issue with you? :surprised: :confused: :eek:

Re: 8 Years of suffering under Obama.

Posted: Sat Aug 03, 2019 12:09 pm
by _Kevin Graham
Gunnar wrote:The incredible stupidity of Trump doubling down on the claim that China, and not American citizens and consumers and farmers and small businesses, will somehow pay the tariffs he is imposing, is mind boggling!


"You interviewed the wrong Farmers." Then he goes on to say Chins is putting "billions and billions" into our economy thanks to his tariffs.

Neil Cavuto basically says Trump makes no sense. If Obama had said this he'd be far less charitable in his critique.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_cont ... M7QLLxJZOQ