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Trump on the couch.

Posted: Fri Aug 09, 2019 8:31 pm
by _aussieguy55
I borrowed a book from the local Library The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump:27 Psychiatrists and Mental Health Professionals assess a President. Interesting chapter on the Narcissistic Personalty.

The Narcissistic Personality

Believing you are better than others
Fantasizing about power success and attractiveness
Exaggerating your achievements or talents
Expecting constant praise and admiration The Narcissistic
Believing that you are special and acting accordingly
Failure to recognize other people’s emotions and feelings
Expecting others to go along with your ideas and plans
Taking advantages of others
Expressing disdain for those whom you feel to be inferior
Being jealous of others
Believing that others are jealous of you
Having trouble keeping healthy relationships
Setting unrealistic goals
Being easily hurt and rejected
Having a fragile self-esteem
Appearing tough-minded or unemotional
Phillip Zimbardo & Rosemany Sword
The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump : 27 Psychiatrists and Mental Health Experts Assess a President pp36-39

There are plenty of youtube videos displaying in plain sight instances mentioned above of Trump's personality. Who talks about getting a love letter from a ruthless dictator like Kim? Trump "Only I can fix it" current debt to gdp? deficit?

Re: Trump on the couch.

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 3:44 pm
by _Some Schmo
In my day, we called this stuff "being an asshole."

Re: Trump on the couch.

Posted: Sat Aug 10, 2019 4:16 pm
by _EAllusion
There is a strong professional ethic against diagnosing public figures, especially politicians, from afar. It's called the "Goldwater rule" in psychology - so named because of a magazine article published during the 1964 election in which thousands of psychiatrists irresponsibly declared Goldwater psychologically unfit to hold office.

Then you have Trump come along and be the most obvious cluster B personality disorder case there ever was right out in the open. Don't clinical psychologists and psychiatrists have a duty to use their professional expertise for good and warn the public? Or does the ethic of staying out of politics take precedence so psychologists and psychiatrists don't start mixing their (largely left-leaning) political beliefs with their professional judgment to the determent of the political system and the reputation of their profession? Trump might be a bright-line case, but the risk of bias and unprofessional judgment in other cases is large.

What's the right thing to do? I don't know. I lean towards staying out of it, though.

Re: Trump on the couch.

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 1:15 am
by _aussieguy55
Fawn Brodie (No Man Knows My History) and Ronald Numbers Prophetess of Health Ellen G White SDA church use psychology to assess their subjects. I found one author pointed out points on delusion. Trump "I know more than anyone about infrastructure" etc

Trump's delusions

Delusions are beliefs that exist despite indisputable factual evidence to the contrary
Delusions are held with absolute certainty despite their falsity and impossibility
Delusions can have a variety of themes including grandeur and persecution
Delusions are not of the bizarre variety but rather seem like ordinary figures of speech excep that each word is meant literally
Delusional people tend to be extremely thin skinned and humorless especially regarding their delusions.
Delusions are central to the persons existence and questioning them elicits a jolting and visceral reaction.
Delusional disorder is chronic and tends to worsen in adulthood middle age and beyond.
Words and actions are consistent and logical if the basic premise of the delusion is accepted as reality. “Because I am superior to all it follows that I would never apologize because I am never Michael Tansey PH.D “Why “Cray like wrong.
General logical reasoning and behaviour are unaffected unless they are very specifically related to the delusion.
a fox”” pp 110 - 125.
“Why Crazy like Fox “Versus “Crazy like a Crazy” really matters Michael Tansey PH.D pp 110-125.

Re: Trump on the couch.

Posted: Sun Aug 11, 2019 7:48 pm
by _aussieguy55
https://static.macmillan.com/static/dut ... script.pdf Notes on the conference.

Does anyone have a view after all this comment conservatives still support him? Maybe some conservative therapist from an evangelical college weigh in?

"And suddenly as a person in power he discovers that he can get away with more and more violation
of social norms and morphing into actual criminal behavior. This is somebody who’s discovered
that his popularity increases when he bombs somebody, and the media that we speak about can be
distracted and turn the attention away from what’s in his taxes or what is the connection with, you
know, has this person basically committed
treason by doing the bidding of a foreign power, a
hostile foreign power. But one can distract the media from all of that by using “the Mother of All
Bombs.” In both of these instances, the missile attacks on Syria, the bombing in Afghanistan, the
actual military situation is not in any way changed by these actions, but the political situation at
home is changed. The media are suddenly talking about him acting presidential, and his sense of
grandiose power and unlimited power is amplified. So I do think we can…."

Re: Trump on the couch.

Posted: Mon Aug 12, 2019 1:59 am
by _aussieguy55
https://www.forbes.com/sites/stephanies ... ji3z1AZmT4


"Trump knows the importance of manufacturing an enemy and then portraying himself as the only person who could "conquer" this manufactured enemy."

Will he solve the gun problem?

Will he solve the trade problem?

Will he solve the debt problem?

Re: Trump on the couch.

Posted: Tue Aug 13, 2019 2:53 am
by _Some Schmo
aussieguy55 wrote:"Trump knows the importance of manufacturing an enemy and then portraying himself as the only person who could "conquer" this manufactured enemy."

Will he solve the gun problem?

Will he solve the trade problem?

Will he solve the debt problem?

As you pointed out, Trump only manufactures problems. It's up to future generations to solve them, assuming they have time.