Trump's Most Inhumane Act Yet?

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Trump's Most Inhumane Act Yet?

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Trump ends life-saving "medical deferred action" program.
Rachel Maddow reports on the Trump administration's abrupt ending of the "medical deferred action" program that allows non-citizens to remain in the U.S. to continue receiving life-saving treatment. Families in this program are being given 33 days to leave the country, a death sentence in some cases.
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He's inhumane because he's barely human.

Where is the fatal plaque buildup in his major arteries when we need it most?
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Gunnar wrote:Trump ends life-saving "medical deferred action" program.
Rachel Maddow reports on the Trump administration's abrupt ending of the "medical deferred action" program that allows non-citizens to remain in the U.S. to continue receiving life-saving treatment. Families in this program are being given 33 days to leave the country, a death sentence in some cases.

I started watching that segment, and I had to turn it off. It was just too upsetting.

There are policies and actions Trump takes that are so spiteful and hateful it is difficult to understand his motivation. Who in this country is suffering because we let people in for medical treatment? The doctors and nurses? Is this how we Make America Great Again? On what planet? In which universe?

There's an old George Harrison Song, I Me Mine:

All through' the day
I me mine, I me mine, I me mine.
All through' the night
I me mine, I me mine, I me mine.
Now they're frightened of leaving it
Ev'ryone's weaving it,
Coming on strong all the time,
All through' the day I me mine.


I think I Me Mine should be Trump's campaign song. Make America Great is 'I Me MIne' writ large.
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Here is a more comprehensive report if you can stomach viewing it.
Stephen Miller is undoubtedly behind this change in policy. Some commentators said he should be tried at The Hague for this policy. So should Trump IMHO! Hopefully there are enough members in Congress sufficiently outraged by this to pass legislation halting this change in policy by a veto proof margin.

ETA: The people getting these notifications telling them they must leave in 33 days include patients who came here legally on visitors' visas expressly for life-saving medical procedures not available in their home countries. Among the patients listed, for example, is a 14 year old girl who came here for heart surgery, and is now between surgeries, and needs further follow up and recovery that requires more than the time permitted by these notifications.
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Perfume on my Mind wrote:He's inhumane because he's barely human.

Where is the fatal plaque buildup in his major arteries when we need it most?

I question whether there would be significant improvement if Pence replaced Trump, should the latter die in office before the end of his term.
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Gunnar wrote:
Perfume on my Mind wrote:He's inhumane because he's barely human.

Where is the fatal plaque buildup in his major arteries when we need it most?

I question whether there would be significant improvement if Pence replaced Trump, should the latter die in office before the end of his term.

Pence would render Trumpism impotent and leaderless. I know it wouldn't be much better.

But the fact is, if you've got a cancerous tumor, you have it removed, whether you think there's another tumor to take its place or not.
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Perfume on my Mind wrote:Pence would render Trumpism impotent and leaderless. I know it wouldn't be much better.

But the fact is, if you've got a cancerous tumor, you have it removed, whether you think there's another tumor to take its place or not.

Excellent analogy!
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Subby, Ajax, Bach & other diehard Trumpists, are you willing to acknowledge the inherent inhumanity of this heartless policy development?
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Does anyone think the man is totally losing it right now? As in slipping? As in either he's losing it or he desperately wants out of the 2020 race?
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Jersey Girl wrote:Does anyone think the man is totally losing it right now? As in slipping? As in either he's losing it or he desperately wants out of the 2020 race?

As I am sure you are aware, this is not the first time we have discussed this possibility on this very forum. There have been strong suggestions that Trump never wanted to win the Presidency in the first place. Trump Was Horrified When He Won the White House and Melania Cried, Book Claims.
Trump's longtime friend and former head of Fox News Roger Ailes used to say "if you want a career in television, first run for president." And that's just what Trump did, with plans to start a news network and become "the most famous man in the world."

A week before the election, Trump was sure he would lose the presidency. But still, according to Wolff's book, he told Ailes that it was "bigger than I ever dreamed of. I don't think about losing, because it isn't losing. We've totally won."

Then he actually won.

I have doubts that that strategy would have worked for him, had he lost the election, though, given the numerous bankruptcies and failed business ventures he started before he ever ran for President.

Like you, I have also wondered whether he is actually trying to lose the 2020 election given some the extreme and unpopular (except among his sycophantic loyal base) positions he has taken. Yet, that would seem rather foolish of him, given that with all the potentially indictable and prosecutable things he has done before and while in office, it seems likely that winning the presidency again may be the only way he can reasonably expect to avoid or postpone arrest, prosecution and imprisonment, right after the election.
No precept or claim is more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.

“If you make people think they're thinking, they'll love you; but if you really make them think, they'll hate you.”
― Harlan Ellison
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