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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqzl3imhQbY

The US has by far the best temperature data set in the world. Most of the stations in the US Historical Climatology Network have long term coherent data, This is what the raw temperature data looks like- before NOAA starts tampering with it.


These are all the Raw Data sets for the last 150 years from when tracking started (depending area) in the U.S.

You will notice some things...
First, you will see a small # have slight upward trends and a small # have slight downward trends.
But what you will see most of all, is that near ALL show a trend of the temperatures going UP and DOWN at essentially the SAME levels, that there is NO "increase" in Temperatures occurring over the period we have data.

The Leftists "scientists" lie to you with their "final data" by doing a few things off the top of my head.
- Erasing the Medieval Warm Period
- Erasing the 1940's Warm Period
- Erasing the Little Ice Age
- Erasing that we are actually in a LONG 1,000's of years downward cooling period (it's why most scientists were saying we were going to have an ice age 40 years ago, but once more Leftists started getting into science, they started manipulating it per their politics, of course the ice age claim was also a false one, but at least it was "closer" to reality)
- "Averaging" world data where there is no data.
- Ignoring the better Satellite World data and Ice Cores.
- Ignoring the Sun's activity during the warming periods (matches perfectly the earths warming periods)
- Ignoring that when you zoom into the years, C02 increases actually FOLLOW Warming. It's only by showing "larger" time spans does it seem like warming follows C02 or happens at the same time.

Little science fact... The reason C02 follows primarily follows Warming is because with warming you get more plant growth, more plant growth means they give off more C02. Of course, plants absorb a lot of C02 also, but while they absorb more C02 during the day and release not as much C02 during the day, they release more C02 at night than absorbing of C02 (basically it's just like breathing).

You are being lied to.

This map shows you the Data Recording Stations around the world.
So you can see how the U.S. Data compares to the world data.
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UPDATE:

The BEST proof of the Data... all in one pic.

Canada's ALL 45 MILLION + Daily Temperature Max Raw Data Measurements.
This picture clearly shows that there is ZERO "Warming" occurring from 1850 to now.

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By the way, note how this graph shows the Warming of the 1940's, the famous "dust bowl" which, which we ALL know there was significant Warming during that period, the period the so-called "reputable climate scientists" have ELIMINATED from their recent manipulations/charts, in order to further deceive.
Note, there has been ZERO "Warming" uptick since then.


If Warming was real, we would see it in the data. It's not there.
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As it becomes more and more obvious that the planet is warming and the effects of continued warming threaten human civilization, the deniers become increasingly unhinged and divorced from reality. Expect this to continue.

ETA: Here’s an article that discusses the actual adjustments and their effects. https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.carbon ... ecords/amp Surprise — the effect of the adjustments has little effect on global temperature change.

And another, that shows why US data requires more adjustment than other data, meaning faqs is cherry picking again.
https://arstechnica.com/science/2016/01 ... ture-data/

It’s not like finding the actual facts is hard. It just requires wanting to find the actual facts.
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... C02 follows primarily follows warming ...

Especially when fossil fuels are ‘warmed’ to the point of combustion. ; )
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ldsfaqs wrote:Little science fact... The reason C02 follows primarily follows Warming is because with warming you get more plant growth, more plant growth means they give off more C02. Of course, plants absorb a lot of C02 also, but while they absorb more C02 during the day and release not as much C02 during the day, they release more C02 at night than absorbing of C02 (basically it's just like breathing).

You are being lied to.

I was curious about this little proposal. What I found repeated in various places was that with sunlight co2 is absorbed releasing oxygen while at night with no sunlight to fuel this process some c02 is released in a respiration process. About half the amount of c02 absorbed is released which means more plants, less c02 in the atmosphere.

It was also noted that over time that decrease is further minimized by dead plants decaying and as a result much of the absorbed c02 is slowly released. That would still mean more plants mean less co2 in the atmosphere but the difference is less than if this is not taken into account.

https://.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-18/pla ... ra/9163858
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huckelberry wrote:
ldsfaqs wrote:Little science fact... The reason C02 follows primarily follows Warming is because with warming you get more plant growth, more plant growth means they give off more C02. Of course, plants absorb a lot of C02 also, but while they absorb more C02 during the day and release not as much C02 during the day, they release more C02 at night than absorbing of C02 (basically it's just like breathing).

You are being lied to.

I was curious about this little proposal. What I found repeated in various places was that with sunlight co2 is absorbed releasing oxygen while at night with no sunlight to fuel this process some c02 is released in a respiration process. About half the amount of c02 absorbed is released which means more plants, less c02 in the atmosphere.

It was also noted that over time that decrease is further minimized by dead plants decaying and as a result much of the absorbed c02 is slowly released. That would still mean more plants mean less co2 in the atmosphere but the difference is less than if this is not taken into account.

https://.abc.net.au/news/2017-11-18/pla ... ra/9163858


Silly me. I thought the fact that plants both photosynthesize and respire was basic high school biology. What should also be basic biology is that plants generate less CO2 through respiration than they absorb CO2 through photosynthesis. Faqs's ravings are, not surprisingly, exactly backwards. That's why he claims that biologists have been lying to us (since before climate change was even a thing) and you should trust some guy on youtube.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q ... 60nJr2llSm
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For an actual scientific explanation of why, historically, CO2 increases at the end of ice ages followed temperature increases, see https://skepticalscience.com/co2-lags-temperature.htm

What's changed this time around is that we have massive amounts of CO2 being released into the atmosphere by humans. Faqs' ravings, in effect, deny that feedback can exist.
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I’m reminded of a certain politician’s penchant for proclaiming “did you know…” or “not many people know this…” right after he learns something basic for the first time, but despite having just learned it; still manages to bungle it.
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Plants produce less oxygen at night through photosynthesis? Is this part of the leftist rotational conspiracy?!!!
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moksha wrote:Plants produce less oxygen at night through photosynthesis? Is this part of the leftist rotational conspiracy?!!!


Yep. We own physics and biology dontcha know.
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Res Ipsa wrote:What's changed this time around is that we have massive amounts of CO2 being released into the atmosphere by humans. Faqs' ravings, in effect, deny that feedback can exist.

Thank you.

faqs has yet to be able to explain how combusting nearly 95 million barrels of concentrated hydrocarbon-rich fluid fuels and over 20 million tons of coal - per day - will have absolutely no effect on the environment or CO2 levels, especially considering how long it took to originally sequester this material.

faqs has been lied to, and his pride drives him to knowingly lie to us.
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