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Asymmetrical Warfare
Posted: Sat Sep 14, 2019 11:24 pm
by _MeDotOrg
Yemen's Houthi rebels used 10 drones to attack Saudi oil refinery complexes. They took out roughly 50% of Saudi Arabia's oil production. Saudi Arabia has the world's third largest defense budget. Their single greatest strategic resource is their oil refineries. Yemini rebels took out 5% of the
World's oil production with a couple of drones. The drones were probably supplied by Iran, but it shows how much damage a proxy group can do for a state sponsor.
I think about Liquid Natural Gas (LNG) terminals.
Drones are a great example of how technology makes the world simultaneously more terrible and wonderful. Drones can be used to deliver supplies or medicine, search for survivors, and give humans views that would otherwise be impossible. They can also be used to target the most vulnerable points of an opponent's infrastructure.
Re: Asymmetrical Warfare
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 12:25 am
by _Doctor CamNC4Me
What kind of drones were used?
- Doc
Re: Asymmetrical Warfare
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 2:39 am
by _honorentheos
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:What kind of drones were used?
- Doc
Houthi rebels have been using drones in combat since the start of the Saudi-led war. The first appeared to be off-the-shelf, hobby-kit-style drones. Later, versions nearly identical to Iranian models turned up. Iran denies supplying the Houthis with weapons, although the U.N., the West and Gulf Arab nations say Tehran does.
U.N. investigators said the Houthis' new UAV-X drone likely has a range of up to 1,500 kilometers (930 miles). That puts the far reaches of both Saudi Arabia and the United Arab Emirates in range.https://www.sfgate.com/news/world/artic ... 439199.php
Re: Asymmetrical Warfare
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 2:41 am
by _honorentheos
Even better.
The Iranian-backed Houthis, who hold Yemen's capital, Sanaa, and other territory in the Arab world's poorest country, took responsibility for the attacks in the war against a Saudi-led coalition that has fought since 2015 to reinstate the internationally recognized Yemeni government. But the U.S. blamed Iran, with Secretary of State Mike Pompeo tweeting, "There is no evidence the attacks came from Yemen."
"Iran has now launched an unprecedented attack on the world's energy supply," Pompeo added.
Re: Asymmetrical Warfare
Posted: Sun Sep 15, 2019 8:28 am
by _Gunnar
It appears to be yet another undesirable consequence of Trump's ill considered decision to withdraw from the Iran agreement, whose most likely motivation was Trump's petty and childish decision to destroy or undermine anything, whether good or bad, with which Obama had anything to do. Nevertheless, in this action I sympathize more with the Yemenis than with Saudi Arabia.
Re: Asymmetrical Warfare
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 1:13 pm
by _ajax18
whose most likely motivation was Trump's petty and childish decision to destroy or undermine anything, whether good or bad
Even some Democrats agreed that the Iran "Deal," was a terrible agreement for the US. It's not a right wing fringe view. As sweet a deal as this was for Iran, they still wouldn't hold up their end of it.
Re: Asymmetrical Warfare
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 3:01 pm
by _Chap
ajax18 wrote:As sweet a deal as this was for Iran, they still wouldn't hold up their end of it.
Which is no doubt why the Trump administration certified in April and July 2017 that Iran was in compliance with the terms of the deal.
But then Netanyahu came to call ...
Re: Asymmetrical Warfare
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 3:08 pm
by _Doctor Steuss
ajax18 wrote:Even some Democrats agreed that the Iran "Deal," was a terrible agreement for the US. It's not a right wing fringe view.
What specifically about the agreement was terrible for the US?
As sweet a deal as this was for Iran, they still wouldn't hold up their end of it.
By all verifiable measures, they were adhering to the agreement, which is one of the reasons why no other nations immediately withdrew when the US did.
Re: Asymmetrical Warfare
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 3:40 pm
by _Dr Exiled
Chap wrote:ajax18 wrote:As sweet a deal as this was for Iran, they still wouldn't hold up their end of it.
Which is no doubt why the Trump administration certified in April and July 2017 that Iran was in compliance with the terms of the deal.
But then Netanyahu came to call ...
That's it right there. Netanyahu and Adelson (Las Vegas billionaire backer of Trump and Netanyahu) are bent on pushing us into war with Iran.
Re: Asymmetrical Warfare
Posted: Mon Sep 16, 2019 3:40 pm
by _honorentheos
The US pulling out of the deal and slapping on new sanctions also put Iran in a catch 22. They couldn't dispose of the material they were allowed to generate under the deal now, forcing them to eventually exceed the cap in the deal. Basically the Trump admin forced them into a situation where they were going to break one of the conditions for compliance which they ended up doing this spring. But they told everyone in advance that it was coming, that they couldn't do anything about it if the US didn't offer relief.