Removing Trump will Doom GOP for decades

[_Some Schmo]

I'd love to know how many people who used to be open to voting for a Republican but now vow they never will again without a massive overhaul (like me).

I kind of get the feeling people in this category are few and far between.

Bill Maher's right. Americans are generally dumb. The fact that the GOP has a chance in any elections at all proves that point.

I mean, seriously. Can anyone name a single thing the GOP is good for in terms of governance? They're useless! They are a cancer on the American experiment. Just the fact that their base would elect this fat “F” shows what kind of base it is.

"Deplorable" is too nice a word.

[_ajax18]

I'd love to know how many people who used to be open to voting for a Republican but now vow they never will again without a massive overhaul (like me).

Not enough to elect candidates like John McCain or Mitt Romney. A lot of people don't understand this principle of politics. Compromise and weak stances on issues doesn't win elections.

[_Jersey Girl]

ajax here is the quid pro quo.

I would like you to do us a favor though,

Full stop. Right there. That's it. That's undeniably it.

[_Res Ipsa]

I'd love to know how many people who used to be open to voting for a Republican but now vow they never will again without a massive overhaul (like me).

I kind of get the feeling people in this category are few and far between.

Bill Maher's right. Americans are generally dumb. The fact that the GOP has a chance in any elections at all proves that point.

I mean, seriously. Can anyone name a single thing the GOP is good for in terms of governance? They're useless! They are a cancer on the American experiment. Just the fact that their base would elect this fat ____ shows what kind of base it is.

"Deplorable" is too nice a word.

I’ve always voted for a D or an I in presidential elections, but that’s been more a function of who the candidates were than party affiliation. In my state and local elections, I’d always voted for who I thought was the best candidate, which means I’ve voted for lots of Republicans over the years.

Starting about when Newt Gingrich became speaker, I began to become concerned about the direction the Republican Party was taking. That concern was amplified by the rise of right-wing radio and the effect it was having on the party. But I didn’t change my voting philosophy.

When I saw how the Republican Party reacted to Obama’s election, I concluded the party had lost its moral compass and had thrown any semblance of loyalty to the country out the window in favor of winning at any cost. From that day forward, I have never voted for an R again. And given the Tea Party’s complete capture of the Republican Party, I doubt I ever will again. I feel bad for the sane candidates on the right (and there are lots of them) because they don’t have a political party that they can call home. But every time they’ve had the chance to show some moral courage to stand up to the pernicious ideology that first infected and then seized control of their party, they rolled over like obedient lap dogs.

So, yeah, you can put me down as someone who has voted for lots of Republicans in his life, but never will again.

[_Ceeboo]

Hey RI

When I saw how the Republican Party reacted to Obama’s election, I concluded the party had lost its moral compass and had thrown any semblance of loyalty to the country out the window in favor of winning at any cost.

Did you actually write that? LOL!

[_schreech]

I can count to potato! I have a degree from prager U!!!!

[_Some Schmo]

I feel bad for the sane candidates on the right (and there are lots of them) because they don’t have a political party that they can call home. But every time they’ve had the chance to show some moral courage to stand up to the pernicious ideology that first infected and then seized control of their party, they rolled over like obedient lap dogs.

This is the crux of it for me too, RI. Trump doesn't bother me nearly as much as the feckless, craven politicians enabling and normalizing his behavior. I won't vote for a Republican for the simple fact that they allow themselves to be associated with a known liar and crook rather than stand up for their morality and the future of the country. To belong to the GOP is to put party before country. And it's become clear you can't defend Trump or the party without lying, or admitting flatly to the crimes they're committing.

But another big piece of it is just the fact that the entire party's MO is misinformation and hypocrisy. They do virtually nothing to redeem themselves. They revel in BS.

I don't really consider this a conflict between Repubs and Dems. It's a conflict between people who care about facts and the law and those who don't. I'm not a particular fan of Democrats, but they really are the only reasonable choice, which is very unfortunate.

[_Res Ipsa]

Hey RI

When I saw how the Republican Party reacted to Obama’s election, I concluded the party had lost its moral compass and had thrown any semblance of loyalty to the country out the window in favor of winning at any cost.

Did you actually write that? LOL!

Yes. And I’m dead serious.

[_Some Schmo]

When I saw how the Republican Party reacted to Obama’s election, I concluded the party had lost its moral compass and had thrown any semblance of loyalty to the country out the window in favor of winning at any cost.

Did you actually write that? LOL!

Yes. And I’m dead serious.

I don't blame you. The GOP treatment of Obama was beyond irrational. Only a blind partisan could miss it.

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When I saw how the Republican Party reacted to Obama’s election, I concluded the party had lost its moral compass and had thrown any semblance of loyalty to the country out the window in favor of winning at any cost.

Did you actually write that? LOL!

Yes. And I’m dead serious.

I don't blame you. The GOP treatment of Obama was beyond irrational. Only a blind partisan could miss it.

This sums up the way I feel as well. Like POMM, I used to be a loyal Republican. The party is now the party of anti-science and corrupt multi-billionaire, corporate oligarchs and businessmen whose only moral compass is the unlimited accumulation of wealth and political power for themselves, and the hell with anyone or anything else! The Democrat party is not perfect either, but they are not yet nearly as odiously depraved and devoid of sound policies and ethical awareness as the Republican party has become. I am becoming ever more strongly convinced that the Supreme Court decision in the case of Citizens United v. FEC of 2010 is largely what made inevitable the massive corruption that now pervades the U.S. Government, that resulted in the election of Trump and his cronies to the highest political offices in our land. Until that decision is overturned or invalidated by a constitutional amendment, it will remain possible for politicians to be bought and owned by the highest bidders and the most mercenary and corrupt special interests. That decision abundantly revealed that even the the Supreme Court is not immune to corporate corruption and manipulation.