Markk wrote:I actually m not ignoring any evidences, there are two sides to Shokin's account...which I touched on up thread, and please watch the video below. Again to my point, was and is there enough evidence to warrant an investigation. Shokin claims he was let go because he wanted to look into the Biden's, and that he was told to stand down on his investigating them, again, the other side of the story that you are not dealing with. I Understand you side of the story, which is basically that people said he was not investigating corruption, yet the fact that they seized Zlochevsky's property contradicts that, and it is fact that as GP, Shoklin was behind seizing his assets. So again, two sides of the coin that warrant an investigation. All this ties to Hunter, Archer, Heinz, (and even Kerry as SoS, if we go back further) and Joe. Was Joe connected with their getting hired, it appears he was, their is evidence that compliments this possibility? Was he just trying to protect his son by getting Shokin fired (not to mention approving the new CP), maybe? Again it boils down to whether or not there is enough evidence of impropriety at the least, or flat out corruption at the worse. This is what you are ducking. There is also a pattern with Joe and Hunter in other countries, which we have not even touched on, and if I get the time I will start a thread on Joe, Hunter, and China, and show you a clear pattern, that again adds for warranting an investigation. It is not only the Ukraine that begs an investigation of Hunter and his dealing while his father was VP. There is 100% no doubt of a clear and damaging conflict of interest between Joe, Hunter, and by default Rosemont LLC and other LLC's. Back to Shokin...Biden approved hiring Shokin in the first place, and Shokin's claim is that after he seized the assets of Mykola Zlochevsky in 2016 (remember Hunter/Archer were hired by Zlochevsky in 2014) then President Poroshenko called Shokin in and told him “Don’t you understand what Biden wants from you? Why are you getting into this Burisma stuff again?” It is interesting to note that Shoklin also said of Biden “[Biden]believed that Ukraine was his private property, his fiefdom and that he could do whatever he wanted here.” , which compliments his cocky-ness in bragging about his Quid pro quo, which you now admit happened. Listen to Shoklin's side of the story here. Also, note that once Zlochevsky's assets were seized, Hunter, Zlochevsky's employee, used his connections to help Burisma hire John Buretta, a former Obama DOJ lawyer. Also...Just is the past few days, the Ukrainian Government have opened up the Shokin/Biden "affair"...so this is not over at all. The DOJ is receiving information on this, and two senators, Republican Sens. Chuck Grassley (Iowa) and Ron Johnson (Wis.), are looking into improprieties with Hunter and his father also. Why do you believe there is not enough evidence here (and this is just a small part of it), to warrant an investigation and raise concern?
Soooo much text, and
still no factual connection or actual data point that speaks to any alleged profiteering by Burisma from the aid package, or any supposed ill-gotten gains by any Biden.
And still no answer from you as to why Trump didn’t ask the DoJ to investigate - as if the answer isn’t already plainly obvious.
And now you’re asking us to believe the actual corrupt fellow that half the world believed should have been kicked off the job. And even he can’t offer any actual evidence of alleged wrongdoing.
I think that I see a pattern developing. You were suckered into buying this book by the con man who wrote it, because you
want to believe a thing, rather than rely on what the facts tell you. This is not too different from how you’ll be voting in November - for another con man who
has hired
actual convicts and corrupt swamp denizens, is a serial philanderer, has been a shoddy businessman, has cheated contractors such as yourself, has bilked thousands of people through sham ‘universities’ and crappy products, has weakened our security and plunged our nation deeper in debt, and who is a fake Christian, pretending to be ‘one of you’ - because you
want to believe that, as opposed to what the facts tell you.
Again, PT Barnum comes to mind.