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bliss of the voter
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 12:52 pm
by _subgenius
A Deseret News/Hinckley Institute of Politics poll released Thursday projected Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders to win Utah with 28% of the vote followed by billionaire Mike Bloomberg at 19% and Buttigieg at 18%.
“When Pete Buttigieg dropped out we had a lot of voters who wanted to know if they could vote over
The problem is how believable this scenario is, regardless of the quantity of voters who want a "do over"...and no, not the same level of ignorance if wanting a do-over or a whole new system in the wake of 2016. Rather, there are a significant enough number of people who are so passive and blissful with the election process that they do not know how or even if their vote counts. So, given the weight and relative frequency of voting opportunities....meaningful note or not? (the relevance for being "informed" about candidates or policy is rather cursory to the attempted point of this OP).
Re: bliss of the voter
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 2:29 pm
by _Chap
subgenius wrote:A Deseret News/Hinckley Institute of Politics poll released Thursday projected Vermont Sen. Bernie Sanders to win Utah with 28% of the vote followed by billionaire Mike Bloomberg at 19% and Buttigieg at 18%.
“When Pete Buttigieg dropped out we had a lot of voters who wanted to know if they could vote over
Yup, I read about this issue (though not in Deseret News). If people have voted early in a primary for someone who drops out before voting is concluded, they may well feel that their vote has been in some way wasted. If that kind of thing is at all frequent, one might propose the use of a system that enables voters to indicate a second choice, to be used if their candidate withdraws after they have voted.
subgenius wrote:The problem is how believable this scenario is, regardless of the quantity of voters who want a "do over"...and no, not the same level of ignorance if wanting a do-over or a whole new system in the wake of 2016. Rather, there are a significant enough number of people who are so passive and blissful with the election process that they do not know how or even if their vote counts. So, given the weight and relative frequency of voting opportunities....meaningful note or not? (the relevance for being "informed" about candidates or policy is rather cursory to the attempted point of this OP).
Can someone kindly explain to me what subgenius is saying here?
Re: bliss of the voter
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 5:53 pm
by _DarkHelmet
Chap wrote:Can someone kindly explain to me what subgenius is saying here?
Beats me. I'm still trying to figure out why the title of the OP is "bliss of the voter".
Re: bliss of the voter
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 6:32 pm
by _moksha
Chap wrote:Can someone kindly explain to me what subgenius is saying here?
"Fire bad. Water no hurt Subgenius."
Re: bliss of the voter
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 8:22 pm
by _huckelberry
Like Chap I was puzzled. I found two theories. One an idea actually occurred and caused such a burst of excitement that sentences poured out but the idea was forgotten and left out. Second, there was a interconnected flash of neurons which resembled the sensation of having an idea but was sensation only.
Re: bliss of the voter
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:28 pm
by _Chap
huckelberry wrote:Like Chap I was puzzled. I found two theories. One an idea actually occurred and caused such a burst of excitement that sentences poured out but the idea was forgotten and left out. Second, there was a interconnected flash of neurons which resembled the sensation of having an idea but was sensation only.
Sometimes I have a dream in which I am devoting a lot of brain-power to solving some complex puzzle. If I wake up while the dream is still going on, there is a moment where I am awake but still wrestling with the problem, which seems real ... but only until my consciousness is fully up and running, at which point it is revealed as mere nonsense. The dream was not about a problem, but about the sensation of confronting a problem.
Maybe something like that happened to subgenius? He thought he had a thought, but ...
Re: bliss of the voter
Posted: Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:43 pm
by _Doctor CamNC4Me
My wife said this morning, “I will say for Democratic voters this is actually one where their vote really does count more than ever. Shaping the nominee who’ll potentially direct a 1/3 of the federal government is supremely important in our Republic.”
- Doc
Re: bliss of the voter
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 11:23 am
by _subgenius
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:My wife said this morning, “I will say for Democratic voters this is actually one where their vote really does count more than ever. Shaping the nominee who’ll potentially direct a 1/3 of the federal government is supremely important in our Republic.”
- Doc
And so goes those who, in the wake of a sure loss, want a do-over.
Re: bliss of the voter
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 11:41 am
by _subgenius
Chap wrote:.... If that kind of thing is at all frequent, one might propose the use of a system that enables voters to indicate a second choice, to be used if their candidate withdraws after they have voted. ...
well, after reading this notion I can only conclude that indeed, you must be blissful.
In lieu of your mob rule approach here....Are "democratic elections" a mysterious and not-to-be-mentioned topic in the UK education system?
Re: bliss of the voter
Posted: Thu Mar 05, 2020 2:18 pm
by _Doctor CamNC4Me
You're like the drunk Boomer uncle at Thanksgiving loudly displaying out his impotence at the embarrassed guests, but in your case your insobriety is a permanent cognitive feature.
- Doc