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How to make a Democrat love George Bush

Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 6:56 am
by _MeDotOrg
I came upon this YouTube video of George Dubya Bush speaking before the 2001 Radio Television Correspondents Dinner. Like Donald Trump, George was not known for his eloquent English. He was regularly the butt of jokes in the media and on late night TV for his malapropisms.

How did George Bush handle his assault to his dignity? He embraced it. Watch the Video. He quotes some of the stupidest things he had said, and then with a straight face says "Really makes you think, doesn't it?" It was funny, it was warm, it was self-effacing. It was the most powerful man on earth telling the room that he's a human being.

George Bush was what most presidents are: Men with a sense of awe about their responsibilities, and a sense of humility about their own abilities and a sense of humor about their own peccadilloes.

These are the qualities that separate Donald Trump from most Presidents. Watching that video made me pine for a time when a President could look out on an audience of primarily liberal journalists and make them laugh.

I don't know if it would make America Great Again, but it would make America better.

Re: How to make a Democrat love George Bush

Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 9:26 am
by _Jersey Girl
You are comparing a well adjusted man, comfortable in his own skin, an artist who has warm and affectionate personal relationships who did the best to play the hand he was dealt... to a person whose narcissistic personality disorder the entire country is now suffering from and who is unable to interact with any other human being in positive ways, whose relationships and personal associations are all transactional with people whom he views as props to bolster his self image, who trades the good of this country for whatever personal gain he can squeeze out of a situation, who sees the entire world, and what he can get out of it, through a self referential lens, and who fakes his way through everything he does and can only bring himself to draw the line when his status, image and financial interests are on the line. And, who sees himself not as a father, brother, son or responsible leader of this country, but as a "brand".

He is no George W. Bush. He is no Barack Obama. He is a crass and shameless provocateur who has, without conscience, turned this country and it's global standing to complete crap in the span of less than four years.

In short, he is nothing but a wallet with a loud mouth.

Re: How to make a Democrat love George Bush

Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 12:21 pm
by _ajax18
Donald Trump is a revolutionary and champion of the forgotten man. He's a political brawler and the first Republican to even attempt to stand up to the liberal media. He'll always be a hero in my eyes, but even more than that a winner. No matter how the powers that be try to separate him from his supporting base, be it economic detruction, false accusations, or just plane slander, they will never succeed. I will always be loyal to the Trump family after what he's done for me.

We're no longer just citizens of the world. We're no longer the world's free police and military service that we were under GWB. We're no longer the welfare queens perpetual alimony and child support payment we were under Obama. We're the American worker and we're going to take our country back once again. .

Re: How to make a Democrat love George Bush

Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 1:15 pm
by _Some Schmo
ajax18 wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 12:21 pm
We're the American worker and we're going to take our country back once again.
You're a fruitcake who belongs in a padded cell.

Re: How to make a Democrat love George Bush

Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 1:26 pm
by _Chap
ajax18 wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 12:21 pm
We're no longer just citizens of the world.
Who, anywhere, ever was?

Look. You are a citizen of a country whose prosperity and security depend on the rest of the world being a place in which you can sell your products, and from which you can obtain raw materials you don't produce at home, as well as manufactured goods on a large scale. Since WWII, the world has been a place in which the US could largely do that without interference.

However, having that kind of world depended on the US being the more or less unchallenged and freely acknowledged leader of the economically advanced parts of the world, whose ideology was broadly sympathetic to and often admiring of the US.

But China is now pretty well as economically powerful as the US, and under Trump the US has, apparently deliberately, done its best to alienate and render insecure those parts of the world who up to now have been its natural supporters and allies. And China is led by clever, patient people who plan far ahead and move towards their goals one careful step at a time. They will not be satisfied until they have, in as many parts of the world as possible, replaced the US as the country whose attitude to any important question is given first consideration by any prudent national leader.

Do you really think Trump and his team have the skills and abilities to counter that threat effectively?

Re: How to make a Democrat love George Bush

Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 1:34 pm
by _EAllusion
George W. Bush was a horrible President whose actions helped contribute to the present, but anyone would benefit significantly by comparison when the comparison is Trump.

Re: How to make a Democrat love George Bush

Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 1:40 pm
by _Some Schmo
The critical difference between Bush and Trump is that I never questioned Bush's patriotism. Another difference is that it seemed like Bush at least wanted to do a good job, even if grossly unsuccessful. He wanted to actually govern the country.

Trump seems to flat-out hate this country and acts like a traitor regularly. He barely pretends to be doing anything, and often looks like he's trying to make things worse.

Re: How to make a Democrat love George Bush

Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 5:27 pm
by _DoubtingThomas
Some Schmo wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 1:40 pm
The critical difference between Bush and Trump is that I never questioned Bush's patriotism.
Bush is the American Hitler, he started 2 wars. Trump hasn't started a new war.

Re: How to make a Democrat love George Bush

Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 5:38 pm
by _Jersey Girl
ajax18 wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 12:21 pm
Donald Trump is a revolutionary and champion of the forgotten man. He's a political brawler and the first Republican to even attempt to stand up to the liberal media. He'll always be a hero in my eyes, but even more than that a winner. No matter how the powers that be try to separate him from his supporting base, be it economic detruction, false accusations, or just plane slander, they will never succeed. I will always be loyal to the Trump family after what he's done for me.

We're no longer just citizens of the world. We're no longer the world's free police and military service that we were under GWB. We're no longer the welfare queens perpetual alimony and child support payment we were under Obama. We're the American worker and we're going to take our country back once again. .
If he's such a great president who has done so much for you, how come all you do is complain?

Re: How to make a Democrat love George Bush

Posted: Fri May 29, 2020 8:01 pm
by _huckelberry
ajax18 wrote:
Fri May 29, 2020 12:21 pm
Donald Trump is a revolutionary and champion of the forgotten man. We're no longer the welfare queens perpetual alimony and child support payment we were under Obama. We're the American worker and we're going to take our country back once again. .
Ajax,
The president is not the person responsible for or creating your alimony and child support requirements. You sound like a blind man playing dodge ball, hit over and over again and unable to see from where or when the ball is coming.