Not a Chinese Fire Drill
Posted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:45 pm
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This is certainly true, but it is almost equally certain that the Chinese government really has engaged in illegal spying and surveillance of the U.S. government activities and American citizens, and that the various Chinese consulates serve as active nodes of such activity. I don't think there is any practical way of preventing that from happening. I don't think any nations with embassies and consulates in our nation (including even our supposed allies), or in other nations other than their own are innocent of such activity. Certainly the U.S.A. is not innocent of it.
and now facts are once again contradicting your feebly constructed hair-fire reality.
And?Gunnar wrote: ↑Thu Jul 23, 2020 4:42 amThis is certainly true, but it is almost equally certain that the Chinese government really has engaged in illegal spying and surveillance of the U.S. government activities and American citizens, and that the various Chinese consulates serve as active nodes of such activity. I don't think there is any practical way of preventing that from happening. I don't think any nations with embassies and consulates in our nation (including even our supposed allies), or in other nations other than their own are innocent of such activity. Certainly the U.S.A. is not innocent of it.
I'm not denying that we or any other nation is justified in closing down a foreign consulate that is proven to be a major hotspot for coordinating spying activity against the host nation. What I question is claiming that to be the case mainly as a deflection from other serious issues hurtful to the host nation in question that they would rather not address. Is this the real reason for closing down the consulate in question? I don't claim to know for certain the answer to that question, but it certainly fits Trump's pattern of trying to deflect attention from his most egregious misdeeds and failures any way he can.
I can walk and chew gum at the same time, how bout you?Gunnar wrote: ↑Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:23 amI'm not denying that we or any other nation is justified in closing down a foreign consulate that is proven to be a major hotspot for coordinating spying activity against the host nation. What I question is claiming that to be the case mainly as a deflection from other serious issues hurtful to the host nation in question that they would rather not address. Is this the real reason for closing down the consulate in question? I don't claim to know for certain the answer to that question, but it certainly fits Trump's pattern of trying to deflect attention from his most egregious misdeeds and failures any way he can.
Ok, I'll take pity on you and grant you a victory on this small point, that it is possible for Trump to both legitimately oust a hotbed of Chinese spying against the U.S.A. and use that as an attempt to deflect attention from the larger issue of his leadership failures. God knows (as you surely do too) that there is no way you can possibly come even close to winning on defending Trump's abominable performance on the pandemic response, for example.