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Will it be the White House or Gettysburg?

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:51 pm
by _MeDotOrg
Yes, now the President is talking about delivering the GOP Convention speech from the site of our country's most famous place of sacrifice, consecration, and oratory. I would be an extraordinary coda for the Republican Party.

I can imagine what kind of speech Steven Miller would write for the President to deliver at Gettysburg. Probably not a lot about the "better angels of our nature". I would imagine there will be 2 White House factions for the speech: Those who want to point to a brighter future, and those who want to say that if we go down, the country goes down. I think a lot will depend upon the week our transactional President has prior to the convention. A lot of people in the GOP are secretly and not-so secretly facing up to 'life after Trump'. Those ripples are reaching the shores of Trump's consciousness. So will the President's speech be a magnanimous call to bring our country together in a time of crisis, or will it paint a stark, dark, dystopian Ayn Rand struggle between the party of America-hating, God-hating Venezuelan socialists and the last true patriot?

I think we pretty much know the answer.

Re: Will it be the White House or Gettysburg?

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 11:12 pm
by _moksha
MeDotOrg wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:51 pm

I can imagine what kind of speech Steven Miller would write for the President to deliver at Gettysburg. Probably not a lot about the "better angels of our nature".
What a load of Shine-ha. Steven Miller would truly be the great deceiver.

So will the President's speech be a magnanimous call to bring our country together in a time of crisis, or will it paint a stark, dark, dystopian Ayn Rand struggle between the party of America-hating, God-hating Venezuelan socialists and the last true patriot?
It is uncanny how well the words Trump and dystopian go together.

Re: Will it be the White House or Gettysburg?

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 11:39 pm
by _subgenius
The OP is wildly incoherent. Is there a point of discussion? a question perhaps?
Is it about the location? or the theme?
Seems like a lot of sewing with no common thread....other than the usual "let's all run into the street yelling TruuuUUUMP!"

Re: Will it be the White House or Gettysburg?

Posted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 11:45 pm
by _Doctor CamNC4Me
Back in 2018 when we were hiking through Maryland my wife and I met a local who took a liking to us and drove us to Gettysburg. He did a sort of local’s take on the place and it was, to put it bluntly, one of the most heart wrenching experiences of my life. It bordered on the spiritual. I cannot imagine how Trump and his base will despoil the sacredness of that graveyard, but they’re going to turn it into a circus for their political theater.

- Doc

Re: Will it be the White House or Gettysburg?

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 1:51 pm
by _Some Schmo
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 11:45 pm
Back in 2018 when we were hiking through Maryland my wife and I met a local who took a liking to us and drove us to Gettysburg. He did a sort of local’s take on the place and it was, to put it bluntly, one of the most heart wrenching experiences of my life. It bordered on the spiritual. I cannot imagine how Trump and his base will despoil the sacredness of that graveyard, but they’re going to turn it into a circus for their political theater.
It occurs to me, reading your post, that in one very real way, Trump does represent America. He represents its ugly underbelly, hidden away under fake regalia and a BS promise. For all the lip service about American exceptionalism and freedom, his supporters are crying out for the exact opposite. They want an authoritarian to suppress freedom, and turn this country into the sh-ithole they accuse the rest of the world of being.

One very real, unwritten American value is false, baseless pride.

Re: Will it be the White House or Gettysburg?

Posted: Tue Aug 11, 2020 4:34 pm
by _MeDotOrg
subgenius wrote:
Mon Aug 10, 2020 11:39 pm
The OP is wildly incoherent. Is there a point of discussion? a question perhaps?
Is it about the location? or the theme?
Seems like a lot of sewing with no common thread....other than the usual "let's all run into the street yelling TruuuUUUMP!"
The common thread is that Trump will co-opt OUR history for HIS political campaign. A man who thinks the 1917 'Spanish' flu ended WWII. I think it is inappropriate for a political candidate to use Gettysburg, whether it be Trump or Biden. When Lincoln spoke at Gettysburg, he said:
Abraham Lincoln wrote:But in a larger sense, we cannot dedicate, we cannot consecrate, we cannot hallow this ground. The brave men, living and dead who struggled here have consecrated it far above our poor power to add or detract.