TRAGEDY! Ruth Bader Ginsburg Died!

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TRAGEDY! Ruth Bader Ginsburg Died!

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This means that Trump will probably be able to appoint yet another corrupt Trumpist to the Supreme Court!
Good-bye to any chance of salvaging what is left of ACA against the current DOJ lawsuit against it, or enacting into law anything resembling universal health care that won't be successfully challenged by hard right conservatives in court, and probably good-bye to Roe vs. Wade and female reproductive rights! :cry: :cry:

And that is only the beginning of the potential tragedies. Let's pray that Biden gets elected, and will shortly have an opportunity to nominate a Justice or two to the court.

Perhaps the greatest danger is that even if Biden wins decisively in November, there will likely be a Supreme Court in place that will be inclined to rule in favor of any challenge to his election, no matter how flimsy and ridiculous.
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Tragic? how so?
87, cancer battle, and died surrounded by family. Sad but not tragic.
oh.
#tds.
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Anyone who still approves of Trump is very seriously deranged, as is Trump himself! If you really still believe that Trump is not thoroughly corrupt, pathologically dishonest, determinedly self-centered, abysmally ignorant and incorrigibly racist after all that he has been observed to say and do, both before and especially since his election, you either just haven't been paying attention, or are as incorrigibly corrupt and immoral as Trump himself!
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I have just now heard and completely gone to tears. :-(
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We now have incontrovertible proof that every thing the GOP does is hypocritical and in bad faith, not that was ever in doubt.

This country is fu-cked. The idiots have taken over.
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Some Schmo wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:52 am
We now have incontrovertible proof that every thing the GOP does is hypocritical and in bad faith, not that was ever in doubt.

This country is fu-cked. The idiots have taken over.
Yes, McConnell's stated determination to bring a replacement for Ginsburg to a vote before the election is outrageously hypocritical. As for the survival of the ACA against the current suit brought against it by several states, perhaps there is still a chance that it will survive, as even some prominent conservatives have opined that the whole premise of the suit is absurd. Hopefully enough of the conservatives on the court recognize that to save the ACA. Perhaps even Roe vs. Wade is not yet doomed, despite the fact that:
Recently, 39 Republican senators signed an amicus brief calling for the supreme court to reconsider and overturn Roe. It was the anti-abortion movement going all in – seizing a moment they’ve been working towards since 1973.
But just as noteworthy is the senators who did not lend their names to the brief.

The telling absence of Susan Collins (Maine), Dan Sullivan (Alaska), Martha McSally (Arizona), Shelley Moore Capito (West Virginia), Cory Gardner (Colorado), Mitch McConnell (Kentucky), Lindsey Graham (South Carolina), and David Perdue (Georgia) – all up for re-election in 2020 – is a reminder that the public is not on board with the anti-abortion movement’s ultimate goal. And vulnerable lawmakers know it.
Susan Collins of Maine, in particular, has let it be known that she will draw the line against voting for a candidate who is known to favor reversing Roe vs. Wade. I found it particularly interesting than even Mitch McConnell is included among those who declined to sign that amicus brief.
Those who signed the brief wrote, “Forty-six years after Roe was decided, it remains a radically unsettled precedent: Two of the seven justices who originally joined the majority subsequently repudiated it in whole or in part, and virtually every abortion decision since has been closely divided.”

But the public is not divided on abortion. In 2019, public support for abortion rights is the highest it has been in 20 years of polling, according to the Pew Research Center. A reported 61% of Americans believe abortion should be legal in all or most cases, and only 12% of the public want to see abortion made illegal. A third of Republicans support abortion rights, according to a 2017 Pew Research poll, and in states where lawmakers have attempted to ban abortion entirely, most voters do not support it. Only 31% of voters in Alabama approved of the latest law that would ban abortion in all cases, making zero exceptions for rape, incest, or the pregnant person’s life.
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No precept or claim is more likely to be false than one that can only be supported by invoking the claim of Divine authority for it--no matter who or what claims such authority.

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Some Schmo wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 6:52 am
We now have incontrovertible proof that every thing the GOP does is hypocritical and in bad faith, not that was ever in doubt.

This country is fu-cked. The idiots have taken over.
what an ignorant, sad, and petty post.
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Gunnar wrote:
Sat Sep 19, 2020 8:55 am
Yes, McConnell's stated determination to bring a replacement for Ginsburg to a vote before the election is outrageously hypocritical.
Dude,
First:
McConnell's memoir is titled "The Long Game."
Second:
Will Pelosi and the Democrats make the same argument they made for Obama's pick in the wake of Kennedy? Or will they also wax hypocritical and suddenly about-face to McConnell's position of 2015?
exactly.
The hypocrisy is politically convenient and for you guys to clutch your pearls is not even laughable anymore, its sad.
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She was an amazing lawyer and a great Justice. She had more grit than I could ever hope to have. Her friendship with Justice Scalia was a tremendous example of how two people with antagonistic philosophies can relate to one another.

I'm not going to talk about the political ramifications right now. She was a great person who did amazing things, and I mourn her death for our loss of who she was and what she accomplished. I think she deserves that.

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This country is fu-cked. The idiots have taken over.
Then go back to your own country where you can enjoy the fruits of a country that is run by people who behave and think like you do.
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