Vaccinated and Dead Thread

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Alf'Omega
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Re: Vaccinated and Dead Thread

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:30 am
Also, CNN ran chyrons reading, “Joe Rogan, controversial podcast host, says he has COVID, taking unproven de-worming drug.” and, “ Joe Rogan says he has COVID, taking livestock drug despite warnings.”

Those are lies, and no retraction that I’m aware of has been made.

- Doc
Not sure why you think this is a lie. You highlight "unproven," but are you saying this is a lie because Ivermectin has been proven to treat COVID? Because that's the context here. As far as the Rolling Stone piece, that was false about ivermectin overdoses creating a problem for other victims at a hospital.
The problem was that the story simply wasn't true.

As Daniel Dale of CNN explains, it seems the source of the story was a bungled mess of "Telephone" that starts with out-of-context quotes from one doctor. To be certain, Oklahoma hospitals are dealing with overcrowding, but the cause isn't ivermectin overdoses. The actual cause is people refusing the COVID-19 vaccine, then getting COVID-19, and in turn clogging up hospitals because they thought it was more important to thumb their noses as the "liberal establishment" than avoid an extremely dangerous respiratory illness.

Conservatives were ecstatic about the Rolling Stone retraction, treating this minor mistake as irrefutable evidence that everything that the mainstream media says about anything is B.S. Breitbart declared the story a "hoax," even though it was most likely just a mistake by overly eager traffic-chasers. Kevin Williamson of the National Review used the story as an anchor for an extremely creepy rant about the largely imaginary problem of the media fabricating the rape crisis. (A few bogus stories don't change the fact that the vast majority of accusations are true, Kev.)
But RS's mistake doesn't change the fact that Trumper morons are still taking the paste:

People Are Eating Horse Paste To Fight COVID. These Doctors Are One Reason Why
There’s a YouTube video called “Ivermectin Horse Paste” that was published in January of this year and now has nearly 160,000 views. In it, a woman who goes by Self Sufficient Momma demonstrates how to portion out horse paste in order to make it a suitable dose for humans, depending on weight.

“I’m going to be adding in slides from the Front Line Covid Critical Care Alliance (FLCCC),” she tells her audience. “So, they’ve done a lot of trials and have data on the people that they’ve tested ivermectin on.” An official FLCCC slide fills the screen, outlining treatment protocols.
Doctor warns Ivermectin animal paste is dangerous for humans & doesn’t help COVID-19
MARMADUKE, Ark. (KAIT) - Ivermectin paste sales are on the rise at farm supply stores because some people think it can cure COVID-19.
The paste used to treat worms in animals can be very harmful to humans, according to doctors and the FDA.
The Hound Feed and Supply store says they haven’t been able to keep the horse paste on the shelves. They don’t ask what people are buying it for, so they’re unsure if it’s for human consumption.
Washington Post: Horse owners can’t find ivermectin as Americans flock to unproven coronavirus cure

US horse owners face ivermectin shortage as humans chase unproven Covid ‘cure’
QC Supply, a livestock supply distributor in Nebraska, is out of stock of ivermectin paste, for use in treating pinworms and largemouth stomach worms in horses, the Washington Post reported. Other stores have reported shortages too.

“All people from different walks of life come in asking for it, numerous phone calls from people looking for it,” Blake Smith, team leader at the Tractor Supply store in Jacksonville, Florida, told local media earlier this month. Smith added that “a lot of people are using it, but they should not be using it on themselves”.
So at the end of the day the overall gist of the mocking is based in fact and they deserve to be mocked for being the morons that they are. A human taking ivermectin as prescribed by a doctor doesn't make you a moron unless you're doing it to fight COVID. Rogan deserves to be mocked because he's hesitant to take the vaccine - likely just to assuage his right wing base - but he's willing to take anything else in "the kitchen sink," even antibiotics which most people know are useless against viruses.
Alf'Omega
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Re: Vaccinated and Dead Thread

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Rogan's points about natural immunity and the claim that vaccination doesn't prevent you from spreading COVID anyway, were just Right Wing talking points that have been debunked.

Natural immunity is good. Getting vaccinated after being sick with COVID-19 is better.

Study: Those Vaccinated Who Get COVID Carry Less Virus

No, Vaccinated People Are Not ‘Just as Likely’ to Spread the Coronavirus as Unvaccinated People
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