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Re: Tucker Carlson: Jan 6 was a "False Flag"
Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 8:49 am
by canpakes
So, Fox is making it clear that if you want to be told a bunch of sensational lies designed to foment rage within the ranks of the misinformed and misled, you'll need to
pay Fox for that dose of rage heroin.
Interesting grift.
Re: Tucker Carlson: Jan 6 was a "False Flag"
Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 12:42 pm
by Kishkumen
Tucker Carlson is a fascist. I could totally see Carlson, Hannity, Pirro, and their ilk as part of a new fascist dictatorship. Fox News actually has good people working for them, but the three I mention are the kind that are essentially fascist propagandists.
Re: Tucker Carlson: Jan 6 was a "False Flag"
Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 12:54 pm
by Atlanticmike
Kishkumen wrote: ↑Sat Oct 30, 2021 12:42 pm
Tucker Carlson is a fascist. I could totally see Carlson, Hannity, Pirro, and their ilk as part of a new fascist dictatorship. Fox News actually has good people working for them, but the three I mention are the kind that are essentially fascist propagandists.
Fascism - a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, Commerce, Etc And emphasizing and aggressive nationalism and often racism.
Sorry! But that definition sounds like the new PROGRESSIVE movement!
Re: Tucker Carlson: Jan 6 was a "False Flag"
Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 1:07 pm
by Kishkumen
Atlanticmike wrote: ↑Sat Oct 30, 2021 12:54 pm
Fascism - a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, Commerce, Etc And emphasizing and aggressive nationalism and often racism.
Sorry! But that definition sounds like the new PROGRESSIVE movement!
I know it does to you. And I can see why. The extremes of the Left are illiberal, and I do think that is dangerous. That said, as soon as the GOP literally pledged complete fealty to Donald Trump, it was effectively dead as a political party such as we have known in the past. It is an authoritarian movement. That is why Trump and today’s GOP are a very immediate threat to the future of the republic.
On the other hand, you just don’t have that kind of threat of authoritarian leadership from the Left, nor do I think there will be. The problem is that every liberal with resources loves having resources even more than they love being liberal. You can’t have a Russian or Chinese revolution when being liberal amounts to paying some more taxes and consistently using “they” pronouns in creative ways. So, I don’t see either a fascist or communist government coming from today’s Left. If anything the illiberality of today’s Left almost guarantees that there will not be such a thing.
What we will have with the Democrats is a technocratic corporate plutocracy. It will seek to engineer our lives according to its “wisdom.” It will not be fascist or communist, but it won’t be truly democratic either. The Democratic Party is not democratic. It plays democratic until moneyed interests are discomfited by all of the empty promises threatening to become a reality.
Re: Tucker Carlson: Jan 6 was a "False Flag"
Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 5:08 pm
by K Graham
Atlanticmike wrote: ↑Sat Oct 30, 2021 12:54 pm
Fascism - a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, Commerce, Etc And emphasizing and aggressive nationalism and often racism.
Sorry! But that definition sounds like the new PROGRESSIVE movement!
We've never become closer to a dictatorship than we did during the last administration. And after the election Tucker Carlson goes to Hungary to promote the successes of their tyrannical leader.
How Tucker Carlson and the far right embraced Hungary’s authoritarian leader
Re: Tucker Carlson: Jan 6 was a "False Flag"
Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 5:47 pm
by Atlanticmike
K Graham wrote: ↑Sat Oct 30, 2021 5:08 pm
Atlanticmike wrote: ↑Sat Oct 30, 2021 12:54 pm
Fascism - a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, Commerce, Etc And emphasizing and aggressive nationalism and often racism.
Sorry! But that definition sounds like the new PROGRESSIVE movement!
We've never become closer to a dictatorship than we did during the last administration. And after the election Tucker Carlson goes to Hungary to promote the successes of their tyrannical leader.
How Tucker Carlson and the far right embraced Hungary’s authoritarian leader
Do you seriously believe that?
Re: Tucker Carlson: Jan 6 was a "False Flag"
Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 6:09 pm
by K Graham
Atlanticmike wrote: ↑Sat Oct 30, 2021 5:47 pm
Do you seriously believe that?
Yes, because I'm educated. I didn't graduate from the University of Hard Knocks.
You provided the definition of fascism but don't understand it. It requires a dictator so who is closer to being a dictator? Biden? The Democrats don't have a single person in their party that they adore or worship to any meaningful degree.
By contrast, Trump is quite literally the Lord and Savior for many on the Right. He's gotten roughly 40% of the country to believe things that are patently false because, well, that's the kind of authority a bonafide dictator has over his subjects.
He's also violated the Constitution six ways from Sunday.
Re: Tucker Carlson: Jan 6 was a "False Flag"
Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 6:18 pm
by Moksha
Atlanticmike wrote: ↑Sat Oct 30, 2021 12:54 pm
Fascism - a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, Commerce, Etc And emphasizing and aggressive nationalism and often racism.
Trumplandia, where the Big Lie is paramount.
Re: Tucker Carlson: Jan 6 was a "False Flag"
Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 6:19 pm
by Atlanticmike
K Graham wrote: ↑Sat Oct 30, 2021 6:09 pm
Atlanticmike wrote: ↑Sat Oct 30, 2021 5:47 pm
Do you seriously believe that?
Yes, because I'm educated. I didn't graduate from the University of Hard Knocks.
You provided the definition of fascism but don't understand it. It requires a dictator so who is closer to being a dictator? Biden? The Democrats don't have a single person in their party that they adore or worship to any meaningful degree.
By contrast, Trump is quite literally the Lord and Savior for many on the Right. He's gotten roughly 40% of the country to believe things that are patently false because, well, that's the kind of authority a bonafide dictator has over his subjects.
He's also violated the Constitution six ways from Sunday.
How do you spell ICARUS, the same as me?
Re: Tucker Carlson: Jan 6 was a "False Flag"
Posted: Sat Oct 30, 2021 6:21 pm
by Moksha
Atlanticmike wrote: ↑Sat Oct 30, 2021 6:19 pm
How do you spell ICARUS, the same as me?
Kevin understands when not to capitalize letters.
