I still don’t see how breaking curfew forfeits your right to protect yourself. Like, fine you get busted for a curfew violation, so write him a ticket or charge him with a misdemeanor if you legally can. But that offense doesn’t magically terminate all his constitutional rights. It’s akin to running a red light while being chased, but because you ran the red light you forfeit any right to self-defense. That’s absurd.
- Doc
Nobody is arguing that.
Rittenhouse pointed his gun at protestors and killed two "quickly and efficiently", so he is probably guilty.
"I have the type of (REAL) job where I can choose how to spend my time," says Marcus.
I still don’t see how breaking curfew forfeits your right to protect yourself. Like, fine you get busted for a curfew violation, so write him a ticket or charge him with a misdemeanor if you legally can. But that offense doesn’t magically terminate all his constitutional rights. It’s akin to running a red light while being chased, but because you ran the red light you forfeit any right to self-defense. That’s absurd.
- Doc
Nobody is arguing that.
Rittenhouse pointed his gun at protestors and killed two "quickly and efficiently", so he is probably guilty.
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Hugh Nibley claimed he bumped into Adolf Hitler, Albert Einstein, Winston Churchill, Gertrude Stein, and the Grand Duke Vladimir Romanoff. Dishonesty is baked into Mormonism.
I still don’t see how breaking curfew forfeits your right to protect yourself. Like, fine you get busted for a curfew violation, so write him a ticket or charge him with a misdemeanor if you legally can. But that offense doesn’t magically terminate all his constitutional rights. It’s akin to running a red light while being chased, but because you ran the red light you forfeit any right to self-defense. That’s absurd.
- Doc
Nobody is arguing that.
Rittenhouse pointed his gun at protestors and killed two "quickly and efficiently", so he is probably guilty.
I can't even.
We only get stronger when we are lifting something that is heavier than what we are used to. ~ KF
The video, which was shown to the jury during prosecutors' closing statements on Monday, is key to their argument that Rittenhouse provoked the encounter with Rosenbaum by pointing his AR-15-style rifle near him, prompting him to chase Rittenhouse. Rittenhouse testified that he feared Rosenbaum would steal his gun and use it to shoot him.
I still don’t see how breaking curfew forfeits your right to protect yourself. Like, fine you get busted for a curfew violation, so write him a ticket or charge him with a misdemeanor if you legally can. But that offense doesn’t magically terminate all his constitutional rights. It’s akin to running a red light while being chased, but because you ran the red light you forfeit any right to self-defense. That’s absurd.
- Doc
It doesn’t. It might negate your ability to invoke a stand your ground law. Under those laws, you can only stand your ground if you have a right to be on that ground in the first place. If you’re trespassing, you don’t get to stand your ground. All stand your ground does is change the duty to retreat. Even if you can’t invoke stand your ground, you still have whatever self defense privilege exists under state law.
he/him When I go to sea, don’t fear for me. Fear for the storm.
Jessica Best, Fear for the Storm. From The Strange Case of the Starship Iris.