Rittenhouse Trial: Calling Res Ipsa

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doubtingthomas wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:41 pm
36 year old Rosenbaum was 5’ 3” tall and weighed 130 pounds in 2016. Rittenhouse was 5’ 4” and weighted 150 pounds in 2020. Rittenhouse says he lost a lot of weight in jail. Rittenhouse was clearly bigger, faster, and stronger than Rosenbaum.

https://inmatedatasearch.azcorrections. ... ?ID=172556
https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updat ... al-militia
5'3"! Now we know why he was clucking like a Bantam Rooster and walking around saying "shoot me nigga" !! It's bad enough he was a progressive rioter there to burn down businesses of POC, but I guess the stress of the situation was more than his cold little progressive heart could bear.
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Tinfoilhat wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:49 pm
5'3"! Now we know why he was clucking like a Bantam Rooster and walking around saying "shoot me nigga" !! It's bad enough he was a progressive rioter there to burn down businesses of POC, but I guess the stress of the situation was more than his cold little progressive heart could bear.
Did Rittenhouse really have the need to shoot him 4 times? Rittenhouse knew Rosenbaum wasn't armed.
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Tinfoilhat wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:49 pm
doubtingthomas wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:41 pm
36 year old Rosenbaum was 5’ 3” tall and weighed 130 pounds in 2016. Rittenhouse was 5’ 4” and weighted 150 pounds in 2020. Rittenhouse says he lost a lot of weight in jail. Rittenhouse was clearly bigger, faster, and stronger than Rosenbaum.

https://inmatedatasearch.azcorrections. ... ?ID=172556
https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updat ... al-militia
5'3"! Now we know why he was clucking like a Bantam Rooster and walking around saying "shoot me nigga" !! It's bad enough he was a progressive rioter there to burn down businesses of POC, but I guess the stress of the situation was more than his cold little progressive heart could bear.
Calling people progressives just because you need them to be, only makes you look like an idiot. by the way, Rittenhouse said he supports BLM. That will probably cause Ajax's mind to explode.
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Binger wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 9:02 pm

Huber gambled. He lost. He trusted the mob, the mob mislead him, he is dead.
Nope, Huber was trying to disarm Rittenhouse to prevent a Parkland. Like it or not, Rittenhouse was a suspected active shooter.
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He should have stayed with his girlfriend.
Rittenhouse should have ran away really far the moment he noticed Rosenbaum was following him. Rittenhouse was much faster and he knew Rosenbaum didn't have a weapon. No one knows what really happened, it is possible Rittenhouse provoked Rosenbaum to chase him.
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Binger wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:57 pm
doubtingthomas wrote:
Tue Nov 23, 2021 8:41 pm
36 year old Rosenbaum was 5’ 3” tall and weighed 130 pounds in 2016. Rittenhouse was 5’ 4” and weighted 150 pounds in 2020. Rittenhouse says he lost a lot of weight in jail. Rittenhouse was clearly bigger, faster, and stronger than Rosenbaum.

https://inmatedatasearch.azcorrections. ... ?ID=172556
https://www.npr.org/sections/live-updat ... al-militia
So you’re saying Rittenhouse started this, the jury was wrong
You have problems. I am not saying Rittenhouse started this and I said multiple times I agree with the jury. I would have declared him "Not Guilty". It is becoming clear your cognitive skills are not so great.

Take a break. Go for a walk.
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Cult wrote:Well, some people don’t like having their businesses burned down or having their friends killed so they reject that behavior. You like violence and arson more than you like people who do not like arson and violence.
Right, except that you only approve of K's actions after the fact, and only given extraordinarily lucky results: he didn't get hurt, the people killed weren't stellar individuals, and no bystanders were hurt.

You would never use your guns to protect a business like K did, you'd never let your kids do it, and if you owned a business you wouldn't request a 17-year old with an AR-15 to protect your business in a situation like that either. And if any of your friends owned a business and requested a 17-year old to protect it from street thugs during a potential riot, you'd tell them they're crazy and it's too risky for the kid.
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UP UNTIL he kicked Rittenhouse in the face. It was only AFTER that that Rittenhouse fired on him.
Rittenhouse only fired after Jump Kick Man’s kick lands.
https://youtu.be/do7sbWaZstQ?t=603

According to Kyle and Tucker, this is wrong.

Kyle is surrounded by 4 people. He points his gun and they back off.

Kyle: Jump kick man keeps coming, and that's when I fire two shots at jump-kick man

Tucker: and he, you miss him and he kicks you

Kyle: yes
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Gadianton wrote:
Wed Nov 24, 2021 1:27 am
UP UNTIL he kicked Rittenhouse in the face. It was only AFTER that that Rittenhouse fired on him.
Rittenhouse only fired after Jump Kick Man’s kick lands.
https://youtu.be/do7sbWaZstQ?t=603

According to Kyle and Tucker, this is wrong.

Kyle is surrounded by 4 people. He points his gun and they back off.

Kyle: Jump kick man keeps coming, and that's when I fire two shots at jump-kick man

Tucker: and he, you miss him and he kicks you

Kyle: yes
I can never tell if someone who does this, you in this case Gad, simply hasn’t watched the videos, or if you just exist in such an ideologically predisposed space, that you can’t tolerate the truth and have to create an alternate reality that literally doesn’t jive with a factual record that our collective eyeballs witnessed.

I had the opportunity to sit through some training a long, long time ago that dovetailed with counterintelligence operations and there’s something called the "4 pillars of narrative craft.” The key was to identify the enemy’s disinformation campaigns and then figure out a way to de-brainwash a population, or captives, or whatever group of people you want to “liberate” from their ideology. Anyway. These 4 pillars are : conflation, omission, misdirection, and selective emphasis. Typically the ‘bad guys’, whoever they are, want to employ those four pillars to keep their population confused and misinformed.

I think misconceptions about the Ritters situation were deliberately broadcast by orgs like CNN, MSNBC, and various other heavy hitters who essentially cannibalize one another’s hot takes. The first few months were key to conflate the two parallel stories of KR and Jacob Blake (JB) in order to sow confusion, omitting facts that’d make KR seem less sympathetic and anything ‘wokey’ moralistic, misdirect people away from rioters and focus them on right-wingers and their ideologies, and selectively emphasize anything KR did that could be construed as bad and his “victims” as angels or at the very least just not broadcast or print anything that’d cast them in a poor light. This is actually mirrored on this board depending on who’s posting and what their ideology is - I noticed that the Liberals on this board, when giving examples of some bad narrative tend to post fascist examples while ignoring bad socialist or communist examples, while the right-wing’s do the opposite. It’s fairly transparent.

Some examples that can bring this into sharper focus (I fully expect Liberals on this board to deny my examples, as they will do, just as I’d expect Conservatives would deny them if the situation were reversed):

Conflation - Early reporting would often conflate or mix KR details with JB reporting in a confusing way that suggested KR smoked black people. Or reporting would always mention KR’s and JB’s race while never mentioning the race of those KR shot, this would have the effect that KR was a white supremacist that killed POCs at a BLM “protest.”

Omission - KR was an aCtIvE sHoOtEr who indiscriminately shot protesters. News orgs omitted key facts while avoiding outright lying if possible. For example, “After a tussle near a car dealership, KR, who openly associated with white supremacists, opened fire on BLM protesters protesting the killing of JB, a black man, by a white police officer.”

Misdirection - Media orgs routinely brought up right-wing militia groups and focused attention on them to shift attention away from the riots, the anarchists, the socialists/communists, and the millions in damages they exacted on Kenosha, to include on minority business owners.

Selective Emphasis - KR is a really bad guy, but never impugn the rioters he shot in self-defense, and do NOT bring up any of their past misdeeds. Make sure to point out uncomfortable things about KR, but do NOT bring up any information that casts KR in a good light. For example I saw an especially egregious example of this ref Rosenbaum. His exposé detailed that he studied at Pima CC in Arizona, started working at Wendy’s in Kenosha last year, showing images from his Facebook page showing him with his fiancé and young daughter, and to top it off his aunt called him a “precious young man”and he was like a son to her. -_-

All I can say is if we, the center-Left to Left, keep pulling this crap all the while trumpeting how into the truth we are, it’s going to keep pushing the center and center-Right into the Right’s ‘big tent’ rather than attracting them to our side. I think, if we get away from the far-Left and their strategies it’d be better for our long-term strategy to attract voters. If we keep promoting far-Left lies and narratives it’s not going to end well.

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