Ghislaine Maxwell's Silver Hammer could be a proffer

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Re: Ghislaine Maxwell's Silver Hammer could be a proffer

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Some Schmo wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:24 pm
DT, are you also knowledgeable about the legal age of consent in other countries?

Your obsession with this topic is... well, consistent, at least.

by the way, you are aware (I hope) that there are differences among rape, statutory rape, and legal consent? I find it very hard to believe Mexicans give people a pass on rape or statutory rape due to their "culture."
They, I would guess, don’t care for child molesters. I’m not going to link it, but I watched a video coming out of Mexico of some guys taking baseball bats to an older guy who was molesting some girls (they appeared to be around 12-13 years-old). The girls explained that the mother* was allowing it in exchange for food. Long story short, this isn’t the first vigilante video out of Mexico where villagers just absolutely wear out a pervert, rapist, or molester.

I don’t understand where DT is getting the idea that pederastry is acceptable in Mexico.

* note - the mother was spared the bat, by the way, even though she was pimping her kids out

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:31 pm

I don’t understand where DT is getting the idea that pederastry is acceptable in Mexico.
I am claiming no such thing. In Mexico, "Of the 320,000-plus Mexican girls between the ages of 12 and 17 who are cohabiting, nearly 70% are with a partner who is at least 11 years their senior, according to a report commissioned by the Ford Foundation."

"Unfortunately, the culture of having sex with young girls is brought to this country by many Mexican men"
https://usinc.org/fact-the-age-of-sexua ... s-only-12/

A lot of bad things are happening in Mexico. It is common for powerful drug cartels to take 15 year olds, the parents never see them again, watch video https://youtu.be/SyuUGY4OlbE?t=625. It is very sad.
Some Schmo wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:24 pm
DT, are you also knowledgeable about the legal age of consent in other countries?
Nope. You?
Some Schmo wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:24 pm
by the way, you are aware (I hope) that there are differences among rape, statutory rape, and legal consent?
Yes, big difference. There is no such thing as statutory rape in Mexico. In Mexico, they call it "Estupro"

"In the Mexican state of Baja California (where the age of consent is 14), in order to prosecute what is known as the crime of estrupo, or sexual misconduct with a child, the requirements may be reminiscent of a different century (such as the seventh, perhaps).

Estrupo translates into the following: “When the consent of the child is obtained by seduction and/or deceit.”

However, the law also states that the female victim must be “chaste and honest.”"
https://usinc.org/fact-the-age-of-sexua ... s-only-12/

Some Schmo wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:24 pm
Your obsession with this topic is... well, consistent, at least.
I am talking about it because you (and others here) are the ones obsessed. You are so obsessed you see the topic everywhere. I was originally trying to make the point that christians don't see a problem with god impregnating 13 year old Mary.

Anyways, get therapy. You obsession about this topic can't be healthy.
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doubtingthomas wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:41 pm
Some Schmo wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:24 pm
DT, are you also knowledgeable about the legal age of consent in other countries?
Nope. You?
Some Schmo wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 5:24 pm
by the way, you are aware (I hope) that there are differences among rape, statutory rape, and legal consent?
Yes, big difference. There is no such thing as statutory rape in Mexico. In Mexico, they call it "Estupro"

"In the Mexican state of Baja California (where the age of consent is 14), in order to prosecute what is known as the crime of estrupo, or sexual misconduct with a child, the requirements may be reminiscent of a different century (such as the seventh, perhaps).

Estrupo translates into the following: “When the consent of the child is obtained by seduction and/or deceit.”

However, the law also states that the female victim must be “chaste and honest.”"
https://usinc.org/fact-the-age-of-sexua ... s-only-12/
Have you checked your link? The ages of consent and your other pieces of information are just quotes from a blogger, according to your link. They don't seem accurate, based on this 2018 article at a fact checking source:
Copyright AFP 2017-2022. All rights reserved.

A report claims that the legal age of sexual consent in Mexico was reduced to 12 years old and that a man can seduce an underage minor “while acting entirely within the law.” This is false: no law regarding sex with minors was recently voted on, nor does Mexico have a defined age for sexual consent at the federal level.

An article published on June 30 and was shared more than 13,700 times claims that Mexico updated its legal regulations in order to allow for the age of consent -- the age past which a minor can fully understand a sexual act and take part in it -- to be reduced to 12.

There is no law establishing a specific age of sexual consent in Mexico. However, certain legal provisions do indicate circumstances in which having sexual relations with a minor -- the age of majority in the country is 18 -- is considered a crime.

https://factcheck.afp.com/did-mexico-lo ... consent-no
Do you have a better link than a blogger for your facts?
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Oh. Here's your blogger, DT:
At VDARE, Brenda Walker, a regular contributor to the white nationalist website since 2000 and a propagator of the Aztlan conspiracy theory, which claims that immigrants migrate to the U.S. out of a desire to colonize the county and not to work...

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Not just a blogger — an anti immigrant group.
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Marcus wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 11:11 pm
Do you have a better link than a blogger for your facts?
Yes, you just quoted, "There is no law establishing a specific age of sexual consent in Mexico. However, certain legal provisions do indicate circumstances in which having sexual relations with a minor -- the age of majority in the country is 18 -- is considered a crime."
https://factcheck.afp.com/did-mexico-lo ... consent-no

What circumstances?
"27% of criminal codes of federal entities set the age of consent at 12 years old." http://www.scielo.org.mx/scielo.php?pid ... ci_arttext

Here is an official government website
"Al que realice cópula con mujer de catorce años de edad y menor de dieciocho, casta y honesta, obteniendo su consentimiento por medio de la seducción o el engaño."
https://www.gob.mx/cms/uploads/attachme ... o-2014.pdf

Translation: It is only a crime if the victim is an innocent virgin.

And here is Mexican culture according to the Guardian "Of the 320,000-plus Mexican girls between the ages of 12 and 17 who are cohabiting, nearly 70% are with a partner who is at least 11 years their senior, according to a report commissioned by the Ford Foundation."
https://www.theguardian.com/global-deve ... -education

Res Ipsa wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:57 am
You’ve shown no actual evidence that Latino Catholics would ignore jury instructions in a case against Maxwell. Bigotry is exactly what you are posting.
There is a lot of corruption in Mexico, I doubt Mexican Catholics would take the instructions seriously.
The prosecution didn't prove Epsteins victims were innocent virgins at the time.
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doubtingthomas wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:16 am
And here is Mexican culture according to the Guardian "Of the 320,000-plus Mexican girls between the ages of 12 and 17 who are cohabiting, nearly 70% are with a partner who is at least 11 years their senior, according to a report commissioned by the Ford Foundation."
https://www.theguardian.com/global-deve ... -education
Not quite. There are in the neighborhood of 8-10million girls that age in Mexico. I agree its a problem, but something occuring in around 2-3%
does not define a "Mexicsan Culture", at least not in the bigoted way you are throwing around the term.
Res Ipsa wrote:
Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:57 am
You’ve shown no actual evidence that Latino Catholics would ignore jury instructions in a case against Maxwell. Bigotry is exactly what you are posting.
Lots of bigotry i agree, and very little understanding of the numbers he's quoting.
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Marcus wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:29 am

Not quite. There are in the neighborhood of 8-10million girls that age in Mexico.
It is 5,344,540 for ages 15-19 according to the wikipedia.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_Mexico

The Guardian says 320,000 girls, "ages of 12 and 17 who are cohabiting." Notice it says, "cohabiting", it is talking about the girls who are currently cohabiting. Some separate after 1 or 2 years. According to the Guardian, "While one in four girls in Mexico will enter into a union before the age of 18, the rate is more than 30% in some states, including Chiapas and Guerrero. The rate was also much higher in rural areas."
https://www.theguardian.com/global-deve ... -education

And again, it is only talking about the girls who enter into a union. Much of Mexico still believes it is only a crime when you lie to an innocent virgin according to Mexican laws. Catholic doctrine clearly influenced Mexican legislators.

Marcus wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 1:29 am
Lots of bigotry i agree, and very little understanding of the numbers he's quoting.
No sir, take a closer look at the numbers.

I am not a bigot. You don't think Mexicans talk a lot of trash about Americans? I know, I was dating a Mexican woman. Yes, an adult.
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doubtingthomas wrote:
Sat Jan 22, 2022 4:01 am
I know, I was dating a Mexican woman.
I'll take Psychopathology for $300, Alex.
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