Cop grabs throat... of female officer trying to stop him

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This was pretty horrific to see. Is this guy having a roid rage or something?

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What do you hope that we learn from this thread?
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:02 pm
What do you hope that we learn from this thread?
Too many cops have no business being cops. We need reform. We need people in law enforcement who are trained in de-escalation not vice versa.
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K Graham wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:10 pm
Dr. Shades wrote:
Mon Jan 17, 2022 11:02 pm
What do you hope that we learn from this thread?
Too many cops have no business being cops. We need reform. We need people in law enforcement who are trained in de-escalation not vice versa.
Everybody already knows that. Especially that guy's supervisor.

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My question is -- I know almost nothing about law enforcement or LE culture etc. -- what's supply and demand like for cops? Are lots of people trying to become cops or are they hard to find? In other words, how picky can we be when hiring cops?
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Gadianton wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 12:25 am
My question is -- I know almost nothing about law enforcement or LE culture etc. -- what's supply and demand like for cops? Are lots of people trying to become cops or are they hard to find? In other words, how picky can we be when hiring cops?
I bet if we required a 4-year degree in Criminal Justice or Law Enforcement (whatever that’d look like), followed by a couple of years of job training before a cop hits the streets, and then backed by excellent pay out of the gate we’d see the quality of LEO recruits rise dramatically.

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 1:43 am
Gadianton wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 12:25 am
My question is -- I know almost nothing about law enforcement or law enforcement culture etc. -- what's supply and demand like for cops? Are lots of people trying to become cops or are they hard to find? In other words, how picky can we be when hiring cops?
I bet if we required a 4-year degree in Criminal Justice or Law Enforcement (whatever that’d look like), followed by a couple of years of job training before a cop hits the streets, and then backed by excellent pay out of the gate we’d see the quality of LEO recruits rise dramatically.

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I bet if we required a 4-year degree in Criminal Justice or Law Enforcement (whatever that’d look like), followed by a couple of years of job training before a cop hits the streets, and then backed by excellent pay out of the gate we’d see the quality of LEO recruits rise dramatically.
I can't say that wouldn't happen, but where I'm skeptical is how many people with the means and determination to do a 4-year degree are interested in getting shot at vs. something else without the risk? And how would a 4-year degree help with grabbing a taser instead of a pistol in the heat of battle?

I'm sure it depends on location, but a lot of cops are in constant intense situations. A guy I worked with did a few ride-alongs with a relative in Orange County, he said it was nuts.

Speaking of location; this guy I've ran into a few times on my walks lived in China for several years. He says it's pretty nice. Super low crime. He said the regular street cops weren't armed. The cops a level up were armed but not needed very often.
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Gadianton wrote:
Tue Jan 18, 2022 12:25 am
My question is -- I know almost nothing about law enforcement or law enforcement culture etc. -- what's supply and demand like for cops? Are lots of people trying to become cops or are they hard to find? In other words, how picky can we be when hiring cops?
It all depends on the economy. If the economy is bad, then lots of people are out of work and many of them apply for law enforcement. Conversely, if the economy is good, then everyone can make more money elsewhere and nobody applies.
Speaking of location; this guy I've ran into a few times on my walks lived in China for several years. He says it's pretty nice. Super low crime. He said the regular street cops weren't armed. The cops a level up were armed but not needed very often.
Do you think it's just random chance that the U.S.A. is so much different from that, or do you think there are specific, concrete reasons therefor?
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I bet if we required a 4-year degree in Criminal Justice or Law Enforcement (whatever that’d look like), followed by a couple of years of job training before a cop hits the streets, and then backed by excellent pay out of the gate we’d see the quality of LEO recruits rise dramatically.
Does "out of the gate" mean at the start of that two-year job training, or at the end thereof?
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Do you think it's just random chance that the U.S.A. is so much different from that, or do you think there are specific, concrete reasons therefor?
I think in China, people are terrified of the government. In the USA, we think the capitol is our house and we can breach it anytime and attack officials if we don't like what's going on there.

One option is for the USA to become more totalitarian.
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