Page 1 of 1

Proof of Attempted Election Fraud;

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 1:46 am
by Gunnar
Boris Epshteyn, ex-Trump campaign adviser, acknowledges being part of 2020 fake electors plot
Then-Trump lawyer Rudy Giuliani supervised the effort, CNN reported earlier this week, according to three sources with direct knowledge of the scheme. It involved helping pro-Trump electors access state Capitol buildings, drafting language for fake electoral certificates to send to the federal government, and finding replacements for electors who refused to go along with the plot. Epshteyn was among those working with Giuliani at the post-election Willard Hotel "command center" that sought to prevent Congress from certifying Biden's election win on January 6, 2021. They were both among multiple people subpoenaed Tuesday by the House select committee investigating the January 6 attack.

Throughout the interview Friday, Epshteyn repeated false claims about election fraud.

He also said that everything he did was legal and cited the 1960 presidential election in Hawaii as a precedent for "alternate" electors. In the 1960 presidential election, Richard Nixon initially led John F. Kennedy by 141 votes in the state, a much narrower margin than any of the contested states in the 2020 election, but Nixon ended up losing the state after a legal recount. While there were multiple panels of electors, it was because the results in the state changed after the recount showed a different result.

"So, Ari, everything that was done was done legally by the Trump legal team, according to the rules, and under the leadership of Rudy Giuliani," he added.

Trump and some of his top advisers publicly encouraged the "alternate electors" scheme in Pennsylvania, Georgia, Michigan, Arizona, Wisconsin, Nevada and New Mexico.

Last week, Michigan's attorney general asked federal prosecutors to open a criminal investigation into more than a dozen Republicans who submitted false certificates stating they were the state's presidential electors, despite Biden's win in the state.

Dana Nessel, a Democrat, said of the case on MSNBC: "Under state law, I think clearly you have forgery of a public record, which is a 14-year offense, and election law forgery, which is a five-year offense."
So, as is becoming increasingly clearer day by day, there was indeed fraud or attempted fraud in the 2020 election, but it seems unmistakably true that it was committed on the behalf of Trump by Trump's Republican supporters. It did not succeed this time, but if Republican actions, rhetoric and evasions since the Jan 6 insurrection are any indication, there is no comforting assurance that they will not attempt something similar in subsequent elections - especially if they think they are in danger of losing.

Re: Proof of Attempted Election Fraud;

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 2022 6:09 am
by Moksha
Trump was able to piece together a coterie of very amoral individuals who continue to lie for him.