January 6th Committee alleges Trump 'criminal conspiracy'

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Ah, Ray Epps. The Trump supporter who the right wing conspiracy machine completely threw under the bus. They completely ruined this Trump supporter's life to promote the lie that he incited the riot on behalf of the FBI. Truly a shameful incident that should result in a full investigation of those who spread the lie that ruined this man's life.
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Secret Service erased text messages from January 5 and 6, 2021 -- after oversight officials asked for them, watchdog says
https://www.kten.com/story/46877744/sec ... chdog-says
… the Department [of Homeland Security] notified us that many US Secret Service text messages from January 5 and 6, 2021, were erased as part of a device-replacement program. The USSS erased those text messages after OIG requested records of electronic communications from the USSS, as part of our evaluation of events at the Capitol on January 6
The USSS also destroyed the equipment that stored those messages. Totally not tampering with evidence at all.

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The USSS also destroyed the equipment that stored those messages. Totally not tampering with evidence at all.

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I have been wracking my brain trying to think of a logical reason for the destruction of this evidence. The only thing I can think of is that there was a total disconnect between those doing the technology conversion and those in charge of preserving evidence. But knowing what the stakes were concerning the evidence on January 6th, in the words of Ricky Riccardo, they got some 'splainin' to do.
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Some Schmo wrote:
Fri Jul 15, 2022 2:01 am
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Fri Jul 15, 2022 1:51 am
The USSS also destroyed the equipment that stored those messages. Totally not tampering with evidence at all.

- Doc
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Exactly. And now we have corroboration of Cassidy Hutchinson's testimony about Trump's fight with his driver.

This, after Trump and two secret servicemen allegedly denied it happened.
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Some Schmo wrote:
Fri Jul 15, 2022 2:01 am
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Fri Jul 15, 2022 1:51 am
The USSS also destroyed the equipment that stored those messages. Totally not tampering with evidence at all.

- Doc
If there's a Deep State™, it's made of Trump's sickening sycophants.
It is sad that Trump had a corrupting influence on the Secret Service. Reminds me of Sauron turning captured Elves into Orcs and Saruman imitating him and cross-breeding humans and orcs into the Uruk-hai.

Most likely the Secret Service sought to cover up the full story of wanting to remove Pence from the Capital so he could not complete the election certification.
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From CNN
The Department of Homeland Security inspector general on Friday briefed all nine members of the House select committee investigating the January 6, 2021, US Capitol attack about the Secret Service erasing text messages from the day of the riot and the day before.

The inspector general, Joseph Cuffari, met with the committee behind closed doors two days after sending a letter to lawmakers informing them that the text messages were erased after the watchdog agency asked for records related to its electronic communications as part of its ongoing investigation around the Capitol attack....

Cuffari told the committee that the Secret Service did not conduct its own after-action review regarding January 6 and chose to rely on the inspector general investigation, according to a source familiar with the briefing. The inspector general told the committee that the Secret Service has not been fully cooperative with his probe.

Cuffari's description left the impression that the Secret Service had been "footdragging," the source said. The inspector general told the committee they were not getting full access to personnel and records.

Cuffari said he brought the issue to Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas more than once and was told to keep trying to get the information. Ultimately, Cuffari decided to go to Congress because he could not get anywhere within DHS with his concerns.

Separately, a law enforcement official told CNN about Cuffari going to Mayorkas.
A lot of the details are yet to be fleshed out, but you begin to understand why Mike Pence said he didn't want to get into that car.
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The Secret Service was one agency I once thought was beyond reproach. Now they are lying between their teeth and erasing documents for reasons of concealing their wrongdoing. The corruption of Trump has blemished this agency. A housecleaning of the Secret Service is needed. Criminal behavior of this sort needs to be removed and remedied.
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Moksha wrote:
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The Secret Service was one agency I once thought was beyond reproach. Now they are lying between their teeth and erasing documents for reasons of concealing their wrongdoing. The corruption of Trump has blemished this agency. A housecleaning of the Secret Service is needed. Criminal behavior of this sort needs to be removed and remedied.
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The same is true about Trump's claim that the 2020 election was rigged. Any real attempt to rig the election was all the doing of Trump and his disgusting sycophants, and no one else! To make things even worse, many Republican pols make no real effort to conceal the fact that their goal is to rig things so that Republican controlled legislatures (but only Republican controlled legislatures) can actually legally overturn any future election results they don't like, no matter what the overwhelming majority of the electorate voted for.
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There has been some talk from Trump insiders that the blame will be shifted to Mark Meadows whom Trump does not know.
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