January 6th Committee alleges Trump 'criminal conspiracy'

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Re: January 6th Committee alleges Trump 'criminal conspiracy'

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
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Binger wrote:
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I was not asserting a fact so much. I was acknowledging a point made by a board member without being a nuisance. I mean, we were having a conversation with board members, right? My meditation is complete.
So, are you still at 12 informants?

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With respect to FBI informants, Everything old is new again.

In the 50's, the FBI had infiltrated most of the Communist Cells in the United States. In the 60's the were working to infiltrate the SDS, Black Panthers, etc. And THAT era was under authoritarian rule of J. Edgar Hoover, who makes Christopher Ray look like Stuart Smalley.

For the FBI to infiltrate organizations is not new, and men in khakis and polo shirts serving a search warrant do not constitute a new Gestapo.
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MeDotOrg wrote:
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For the FBI to infiltrate organizations is not new, and men in khakis and polo shirts serving a search warrant do not constitute a new Gestapo.
That has not been the issue or the defense. It is a completely different animal when infiltrators set up the crime and recruit the idiots to go along with it. And the ridiculous shenanigans in the process and the prosecution lead to a ridiculous lack of credibility on topics like Ray Epps, who is a free man, despite a crap ton of videos of him doing the same crap that got a lot of people put away for YEARS!

The FBI can play loose like this, that is their choice. And the FBI and DOJ can deal with the consequences of those conditions that they are setting for themselves, their so-called informants, and the voting public. If in fact the FBI was embedded in the Gretchen fednapping and also January 6th, that is their choice, let the consequence follow. No big deal. I am sure the FBI would agree with me. If they did it, so be it. And if they did it, let the chips fall. If they didn't, then nothing to worry about here, carry on.
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https://www.reddit.com/r/Keep_Track/com ... ed_urging/
An op-ed headlined "Gen. Flynn: To My Friends and Fellow Citizens - We Have a War to Wage" further escalates mainstream Republican calls for political violence.

In it, Flynn says "evil still needs to be defeated around the world" and the citizens need to "to stand up right here, at home, for the very same causes we once thought would only be found on distant shores." This takes Florida Senator Rick Scott's calling out his fellow Americans “the enemy within” at the annual Conservative Political Action Conference in Orlando to the next level.

The language nods directly to Christian Nationalism and white supremacy. "Have faith and be proud of our heritage! Do not be intimidated or ashamed of wrongs committed in the past, or even of generational sins for which blame does not rest upon your shoulders." It also references the humiliation of " America brought to its knees at the feet of all countries, including third-world countries"

It warns of "rising waters of a socialist tide" and urges citizens to "put on your helmet, take up your shield, stand strong. Chin up, back straight and do what you know is right. It may be the harder choice, one fraught with risk and the loss of family members and friends, but you’ll sense right away that it is the necessary and right choice to make."

It also references "the tree of liberty", which militia groups will instantly recognize as a nod to a quote favored by the militia movement by Thomas Jefferson — "the tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants."
Huh. That’s weird.
Flynn was paid more than $45,000 in 2015 to speak at a Moscow party for Russia Today, a television network sponsored by the Russian government, according to documents released by the House Oversight Committee in 2017. At the banquet, Flynn sat next to none other than Putin, an NBC News investigation found.
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Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States to fuel instability and separatism, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists". Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics".
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
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A reminder from Dugin himself:
Russia should use its special services within the borders of the United States to fuel instability and separatism, for instance, provoke "Afro-American racists". Russia should "introduce geopolitical disorder into internal American activity, encouraging all kinds of separatism and ethnic, social and racial conflicts, actively supporting all dissident movements – extremist, racist, and sectarian groups, thus destabilizing internal political processes in the U.S. It would also make sense simultaneously to support isolationist tendencies in American politics".
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Seems like the Republican Party and Fox News followed this advice.
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Wednesday, Sept 28th @ 10 a.m. Pacific.

What is expected to be the final Jan 6th select committee hearing. :shock:
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Mon Sep 26, 2022 5:51 am
Wednesday, Sept 28th @ 10 a.m. Pacific.

What is expected to be the final Jan 6th select committee hearing. :shock:
I wonder what Fox will have on as alternative programming?
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Mon Sep 26, 2022 5:51 am
Wednesday, Sept 28th @ 10 a.m. Pacific.

What is expected to be the final Jan 6th select committee hearing. :shock:
Postponed due to hurricane Ian rolling into Florida.
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If they were to include all Republican crimes in the next hearing, I imagine it would be marathon length.
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The historical personality that I find most similar to Donald Trump is Godzilla.

However, even though Godzilla could wipe out high-voltage electrical lines with his tail, he lacked the ability to corrupt an entire political party. That is a notable difference. Makes you wonder how Trump would fare in head-to-head combat with Mothra.
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