Re: January 6th Committee alleges Trump 'criminal conspiracy'
Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2022 5:00 am
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I have very little doubt that he does indeed now wish he had chosen that option and am becoming increasingly fearful that because the voter fraud scheme failed them in 2020, he and his MAGA minions have only become more strongly inclined than ever before to pursue that option -- perhaps even as soon as the coming mid-term election if they conclude that they can't otherwise win. In the meantime, they will continue to pursue enacting laws to make it legal for GOP controlled state legislatures to arbitrarily overturn popular election results they don't like, regardless of what the majority of the popular electorate voted for.Moksha wrote: ↑Sat Jul 30, 2022 2:04 amI wonder if Trump now wishes he had chosen the military coup option rather than the voter fraud scheme?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t4MKYjr42Fo
- DocA jury on Tuesday convicted two men of conspiring to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer in 2020, delivering swift verdicts in a plot that was broken up by the FBI and described as a rallying cry for a U.S. civil war by anti-government extremists.
Broken up by the FBI? Or organized by the FBI?Doctor CamNC4Me wrote: ↑Tue Aug 23, 2022 8:45 pmRelated:
https://apnews.com/article/elections-pr ... 9d6c4cb8d5
Summary for Dr. Shades:
- DocA jury on Tuesday convicted two men of conspiring to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer in 2020, delivering swift verdicts in a plot that was broken up by the FBI and described as a rallying cry for a U.S. civil war by anti-government extremists.
"As another example, the sting they did involving Gretchen Whitmer was fake. Just like those who instigated January 6. It was a fake deal. Fake. It was a fake deal… Gretchen Whitmer was in less danger than the people sitting in this room right now."Doctor CamNC4Me wrote: ↑Tue Aug 23, 2022 8:45 pmRelated:
https://apnews.com/article/elections-pr ... 9d6c4cb8d5
Summary for Dr. Shades:
- DocA jury on Tuesday convicted two men of conspiring to kidnap Michigan Gov. Gretchen Whitmer in 2020, delivering swift verdicts in a plot that was broken up by the FBI and described as a rallying cry for a U.S. civil war by anti-government extremists.
Isn't that the testimony of the FBI? That Gretchen was never in danger and that these assclowns were working for the FBI as informants?Doctor Steuss wrote: ↑Tue Aug 23, 2022 9:12 pm
"As another example, the sting they did involving Gretchen Whitmer was fake. Just like those who instigated January 6. It was a fake deal. Fake. It was a fake deal… Gretchen Whitmer was in less danger than the people sitting in this room right now."
~Donald Trump at CPAC
I think the FBI has admitted to 5 informants amongst the 20(ish) plotters. I can't really figure out who the other players were, and why they weren't charged. There's the 6 charged by feds, and then another 7 by the state, but that leaves quite a few people out. Maybe all the others were all bluster, and no guns/explosives/training, etc.? Or they were too busy playing CoD in their grandma's basement to play a role big enough to warrant prosecution.Binger wrote: ↑Tue Aug 23, 2022 9:16 pmIsn't that the testimony of the FBI? That Gretchen was never in danger and that these assclowns were working for the FBI as informants?Doctor Steuss wrote: ↑Tue Aug 23, 2022 9:12 pm
"As another example, the sting they did involving Gretchen Whitmer was fake. Just like those who instigated January 6. It was a fake deal. Fake. It was a fake deal… Gretchen Whitmer was in less danger than the people sitting in this room right now."
~Donald Trump at CPAC
All fair and reasonable.Doctor Steuss wrote: ↑Wed Aug 24, 2022 4:29 pmI think the FBI has admitted to 5 informants amongst the 20(ish) plotters.
Upon looking a bit more, the defense claimed that there were at least 12 informants. That kind of begs the question though of why would informants be getting indicted/tried (trialed? No idea what the right term is, lol). It appears that 3-or-so were definitely imbedded agents.Binger wrote: ↑Wed Aug 24, 2022 4:37 pmAll fair and reasonable.
I did not read or listen to the entirety of both trials.
I don't think anyone is arguing that these ding dongs were dumb suckers, at best. Most likely, they were nefarious criminals. The issue was always the sequence and role of the FBI and the informants, which, were approximately 5 of the 20 and they may have been the leaders.
Reading the article before a hot take might help with deets:Binger wrote: ↑Tue Aug 23, 2022 9:00 pmBroken up by the FBI? Or organized by the FBI?Doctor CamNC4Me wrote: ↑Tue Aug 23, 2022 8:45 pmRelated:
https://apnews.com/article/elections-pr ... 9d6c4cb8d5
Summary for Dr. Shades:
- Doc
Jesus. F. Christ.
The investigation began when Army veteran Dan Chappel joined a Michigan paramilitary group and became alarmed when he heard talk about killing police. He agreed to become an FBI informant and spent the summer of 2020 getting close to Fox and others, secretly recording conversations and participating in drills at “shoot houses” in Wisconsin and Michigan.