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Re: January 6th Committee alleges Trump 'criminal conspiracy'
Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2022 10:45 pm
by Doctor CamNC4Me
For the second time, the committee played leaked audio first reported by Mother Jones in which Trump adviser Steve Bannon, during an October 31, 2020, meeting, said that Trump had a “strategy” to prematurely assert he had won on Election Day. Explaining the so-called “red mirage,” in which Trump would show early leads in key states before mail-in ballots favoring Joe Biden were counted, Bannon said: “Trump’s going to take advantage of it. That’s our strategy. He’s gonna declare himself a winner.”
“He’s gonna declare victory,” Bannon said. “But that doesn’t mean he’s a winner. He’s just gonna say he’s a winner.”
^ Bannon
Xanax,
Are you going to admit the ‘stolen election’ angle was cynical fraud?
- Doc
Re: January 6th Committee alleges Trump 'criminal conspiracy'
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2022 12:24 am
by Jersey Girl
MeDotOrg wrote: ↑Thu Oct 13, 2022 7:51 pm
NBC wrote:WASHINGTON — The House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol voted unanimously Thursday to subpoena former President Donald Trump.
Members of the panel, which held what was expected to be its final hearing before the midterm elections Thursday, had previously said that they were still considering seeking an interview with Trump or former Vice President Mike Pence. Sources familiar with the committee's plans told NBC News of the subpoena earlier Thursday.
The panel's chair, Rep. Bennie Thompson, D-Miss., said the panel had an "obligation" to hear from Trump.
"This is a question about accountability to the American people. He must be accountable. He is required to answer for his actions," Thompson said, acknowledging the move as a "serious and extraordinary action."
The resolution to subpoena Trump passed with the support of all members, 9-0.
The resolution was introduced by Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., who called Trump the riot's "central player."
The subpoena comes more than a year after the committee began investigating the insurrection and despite multiple members of Congress previously acknowledging that it was unlikely Trump would comply.
It won't matter. He'll plead the fifth to every question or say he doesn't remember. That's what he's done under
every questioning I've seen him engage in. He'll claim the committee is rigged just like the election.
Meanwhile he can run in 2024.
Re: January 6th Committee alleges Trump 'criminal conspiracy'
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2022 3:36 am
by Moksha
Jersey Girl wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 12:24 am
It won't matter. He'll plead the fifth to every question or say he doesn't remember.
He'll claim Lucy Harris took 116 pages of his memory and the angel sequestered the rest to Kolob.
Re: January 6th Committee alleges Trump 'criminal conspiracy'
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2022 7:07 am
by MeDotOrg
Jersey Girl wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 12:24 am
It won't matter. He'll plead the fifth to every question or say he doesn't remember. That's what he's done under
every questioning I've seen him engage in. He'll claim the committee is rigged just like the election.
Meanwhile he can run in 2024.
As much as the narcissist in him would love to do so...you are right. He will probably make a stab at 'negotiating' his attendance, but he'll say the Committee is being totally unreasonable.
As far as running in 2024, he has legal problems that could end in massive fines and possible jail time. If he is convicted of sedition, he is prohibited from holding public office.
Re: January 6th Committee alleges Trump 'criminal conspiracy'
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2022 5:47 pm
by Moksha
MeDotOrg wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 7:07 am
As much as the narcissist in him would love to do so...you are right. He will probably make a stab at 'negotiating' his attendance, but he'll say the Committee is being totally unreasonable.
Stephen Colbert tried to goad him into testifying last night by mentioning that it would have the largest TV audience in history. Wish he would have added plenty of KFC chicken and a bucket of gravy.
Re: January 6th Committee alleges Trump 'criminal conspiracy'
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2022 6:22 pm
by Jersey Girl
MeDotOrg wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 7:07 am
Jersey Girl wrote: ↑Fri Oct 14, 2022 12:24 am
It won't matter. He'll plead the fifth to every question or say he doesn't remember. That's what he's done under
every questioning I've seen him engage in. He'll claim the committee is rigged just like the election.
Meanwhile he can run in 2024.
As much as the narcissist in him would love to do so...you are right. He will probably make a stab at 'negotiating' his attendance, but he'll say the Committee is being totally unreasonable.
As far as running in 2024, he has legal problems that could end in massive fines and possible jail time. If he is convicted of sedition, he is prohibited from holding public office.
Do you really think he'll be convicted by 2024? I don't. He'll drag it out all over hell's half acre like he does every legal problem. He can stall on the current subpoena and when he actually gets there to testify under oath he'll do what he's always done. Shut his mouth or speak without committing himself to anything.
Re: January 6th Committee alleges Trump 'criminal conspiracy'
Posted: Fri Oct 14, 2022 8:54 pm
by Jersey Girl
Here's the transcript of Trump's response to the Jan 6th committee vote to subpoena him. Scroll down. I haven't read through it yet myself.
https://www.lawfareblog.com/trump-respo ... e-subpoena
Re: January 6th Committee alleges Trump 'criminal conspiracy'
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 5:24 am
by Moksha
Trump being Trump, responded with 14 pages of proven lies. I think he was citing the pillow guy, Mike Lindell. If Trump were to testify, it would be 500-600 answers of "The Fifth" or else perjured testimony.
Given that Trump is a pathological liar, every sentence he uttered could result in a perjury charge unless he took the 5th on every single question other than his name.
Re: January 6th Committee alleges Trump 'criminal conspiracy'
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 8:28 am
by Gunnar
Almost everything he claimed in that letter consisted of easily debunked lies, debunked numerous times already even by many of his own carefully chosen appointees and staff members. As already noted by Moksha, if he repeats any of them under oath, he will be massively guilty of perjury. I don't think he really cares, as he knows that his MAGA sycophants will uncritically believe anything he claims, no matter how abundant and incontrovertible the evidence against it. The more abundant and incontrovertible the evidence against him, the more his supporters will claim the mere existence of the cited evidence as proof of the scale and effectiveness of the "witch hunt" conspiracies against him.
Re: January 6th Committee alleges Trump 'criminal conspiracy'
Posted: Sat Oct 15, 2022 8:56 pm
by hauslern
Joseph Goebbells said if you tell a lie often enough people will believe it. A fundamentalist Christian friend of my wife said Obama was a Moslem. I told her of he video showing Obama at a funeral singing Amazing Grace. by the way what did you think of Pelosi? A lady on the View called her a badass. Contrary to what Scalise said she was on the phone trying to get help. The film proves Scalise was lying or deaf.