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Re: January 6th Committee alleges Trump 'criminal conspiracy'

Posted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 11:50 am
by Moksha
Binger wrote:
Wed Jun 22, 2022 12:07 am
Pendulums swing.
I think you are right about Republicans wanting to abandon America. Two strong factions wish to establish the New Confederacy and the Kingdom of Deseret.

Re: January 6th Committee alleges Trump 'criminal conspiracy'

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:39 pm
by Binger
What day are they doing the cross-examination portion of this "trial"? Does anyone know? I suspect that is going to be must-watch TV.

Re: January 6th Committee alleges Trump 'criminal conspiracy'

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:58 pm
by Jersey Girl
Binger wrote:
Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:39 pm
What day are they doing the cross-examination portion of this "trial"? Does anyone know? I suspect that is going to be must-watch TV.

Oh yeah. The cross examinations are scheduled for July. Public executions to follow in August.

You're welcome.

Re: January 6th Committee alleges Trump 'criminal conspiracy'

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 8:00 pm
by Binger
Jersey Girl wrote:
Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:58 pm
Binger wrote:
Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:39 pm
What day are they doing the cross-examination portion of this "trial"? Does anyone know? I suspect that is going to be must-watch TV.

Oh yeah. The cross examinations are scheduled for July. Public executions to follow in August.

You're welcome.
Thanks. Do you know what day in July they will be doing the cross examinations of witnesses?

Re: January 6th Committee alleges Trump 'criminal conspiracy'

Posted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:11 pm
by Gunnar
Moksha wrote:
Wed Jun 22, 2022 12:51 am
Rusty Bowers, the LDS Speaker of the Arizona House, helped save the Constitution when the Trump gang was dangling it by a thread in today's hearing. My guess is that most Arizona Republicans are still loyal to Trump and would stomp out the Constitution if asked by Trump.
Yes! Good for him! I'll bet that before long (when most LDS voters finally figure out how foolish it was to trust in Trump in the first place) there will be no shortage of Mormons claiming this as fulfillment of Joseph Smith's famous prophecy about that. I wonder how much longer it will take for the majority of LDS to feel embarrassed or even guilty for ever having been duped by Donald J. Trump.

I am also somewhat proud of Mitt Romney for having the courage and integrity to vote to convict Trump in the impeachment, and thoroughly disgusted with Mike Lee's continuing obeisance to Trump. I can't help wondering if Mike Lee is a descendant of John D. Lee, one of the LDS leaders involved in the Mountain Meadows Massacre of 1857, and who was convicted and executed for his role in it.

Incidentally, I once had a missionary companion Named Lee who was a direct descendant of that infamous John D. Lee. He stoutly maintained that his ancestor was eventually posthumously found innocent and exonerated!

Re: January 6th Committee alleges Trump 'criminal conspiracy'

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:42 am
by Equality
Gunnar wrote:
Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:11 pm
Moksha wrote:
Wed Jun 22, 2022 12:51 am
Rusty Bowers, the LDS Speaker of the Arizona House, helped save the Constitution when the Trump gang was dangling it by a thread in today's hearing. My guess is that most Arizona Republicans are still loyal to Trump and would stomp out the Constitution if asked by Trump.
Yes! Good for him! I'll bet that before long (when most LDS voters finally figure out how foolish it was to trust in Trump in the first place) there will be no shortage of Mormons claiming this as fulfillment of Joseph Smith's famous prophecy about that. I wonder how much longer it will take for the majority of LDS to feel embarrassed or even guilty for ever having been duped by Donald J. Trump.

I am also somewhat proud of Mitt Romney for having the courage and integrity to vote to convict Trump in the impeachment, and thoroughly disgusted with Mike Lee's continuing obeisance to Trump. I can't help wondering if Mike Lee is a descendant of John D. Lee, one of the LDS leaders involved in the Mountain Meadows Massacre of 1857, and who was convicted and executed for his role in it.

Incidentally, I once had a missionary companion Named Lee who was a direct descendant of that infamous John D. Lee. He stoutly maintained that his ancestor was eventually posthumously found innocent and exonerated!
Lol. “F” that guy Bowers. Knowing that Trump fomented an insurrection and illegally tried to remain in office, getting people killed in the process, this idiot says he'll vote for Trump in 2024 if he runs again. No shame. No lesson learned. He'll gladly pull the lever for a full-on fascist corrupt demented criminal before voting for a Democrat. He doesn't deserve any more praise for doing the absolute bare minimum (i.e., doing his job and not committing crimes. Guess what. I did my job today and didn't rob a bank. Am I a hero?) when he still supports the orange shitgibbon. “F” that guy and any Republican not named Cheney, Romney, or Kinziger.

Re: January 6th Committee alleges Trump 'criminal conspiracy'

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 10:02 am
by Gunnar
Equality wrote:
Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:42 am
Lol. “F” that guy Bowers. Knowing that Trump fomented an insurrection and illegally tried to remain in office, getting people killed in the process, this idiot says he'll vote for Trump in 2024 if he runs again. No shame. No lesson learned. He'll gladly pull the lever for a full-on fascist corrupt demented criminal before voting for a Democrat. He doesn't deserve any more praise for doing the absolute bare minimum (i.e., doing his job and not committing crimes. Guess what. I did my job today and didn't rob a bank. Am I a hero?) when he still supports the orange shitgibbon. “F” that guy and any Republican not named Cheney, Romney, or Kinziger.
Really? Even after acknowledging that Trump did indeed try to illegally overturn the election, Bowers still says he'll vote for that moral reprobate if he runs? You're right! He still deserves to be voted out of office. Yet he still deserves some gratitude for helping to expose what Trump did and tried to do.

Re: January 6th Committee alleges Trump 'criminal conspiracy'

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 2:26 pm
by Binger
Equality wrote:
Fri Jun 24, 2022 1:42 am
“F” that guy and any Republican not named Cheney, Romney, or Kinziger.
Yeah. I can't tell the difference between Pelosi and McConnell either. They are all the same to me.

Re: January 6th Committee alleges Trump 'criminal conspiracy'

Posted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 2:31 pm
by Morley
Gunnar wrote:
Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:11 pm
I can't help wondering if Mike Lee is a descendant of John D. Lee, one of the LDS leaders involved in the Mountain Meadows Massacre of 1857, and who was convicted and executed for his role in it.
He is, but then so were the Udalls.

Re: January 6th Committee alleges Trump 'criminal conspiracy'

Posted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 2:05 am
by Jersey Girl
Even when the hear it with their own ears and see it with their own eyes, they don't believe it. Didn't Trump tell them not to believe what they saw a while back? Jordan Klepper who did the interviews likened their deflections to releasing the chaff in combat. :shock:

Listen to their explanations here:

This is how Trump supporters reacted to seeing parts of Jan. 6 hearing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JR_BG3Ksr9c