Progressive Cult Members Shout Down Father Because He Opposes The Gender Transition Of His Young Son!

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Progressive Cult Members Shout Down Father Because He Opposes The Gender Transition Of His Young Son!

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https://youtu.be/7Mb7nIXMBj8

This video is a great example of what happens to someone’s brain when they’ve been indoctrinated by the progressive cult. A mother wants to chemically castrate her son at the age of eight because the child chose a girls toy in a McDonald’s happy meal!! The father, who’s trying to protect his son so the son can grow up and make a decision about his own gender when he’s actually mature enough to do so, is made out to be the villain by the insane progressive cult!! Make no mistake! Progressivism is a disease! and once you are infected, you’re incapable of accepting other people’s opinions matter. Transgenderism is very complicated, very emotional, very confusing, and gender fluidity is very common especially among our youth! It’s 100% child abuse on the mothers part for trying to chemically castrate her son at such an early age!!!
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Why should I even read anything AM has to say about progressives or progressivism? It is blazingly clear to me from, what I have seen of his comments, that he really hasn't any more than the faintest clue about what most progressives really stand for or why they stand for it, nor does he really understand what progress really is, or approve of rational progress, or aspire to it, apparently. Without progress, mankind would never have advanced much beyond the stone age. All that progressivism really means to me is the willingness to continually reexamine our current knowledge and ways of doing things and rationally consider how to further improve them (and/or replace them if necessary). I utterly fail to understand why conservatives or anyone else would be so fixated on the idea that here is something so inherently objectionable or even evil about the very idea of progress!
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This one’s a really sticky problem. Genuinely. I sincerely marvel that we won’t let kids make so many decisions because they are obviously too young to do so, but there are people who descend into a mad rage if anyone questions whether it is prudent for a child to choose to change genders.

I don’t have a good answer for this really complicated and fraught question of choosing to change one’s body to match society’s false gender binary in a way that accords with one’s feelings, as a child no less! The thing that blows my mind is the fanatical insistence that the answer is clear, obvious, and only morally correct if the child has absolute autonomy to choose something so serious and final in their minority years.

I was fortunate not to have to go through this in my life, in that my kids seem satisfied with the gender of their birth. They don’t feel that mismatch between outer body and inner feelings. I feel for those who have such a mismatch and hope they find the best solution.

But I don’t know that it is obviously the case that giving children medical treatments to change the body is just self-evidently the only right decision. Kids can’t drive, join the military, or vote, but, hey, sure, let them choose to alter their bodies permanently.

?

It’s that clear to you?

It isn’t to me.

I support people in their decisions, and this is a tough decision. Is there one right answer here? I don’t know.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 1:22 pm
This one’s a really sticky problem. Genuinely. I sincerely marvel that we won’t let kids make so many decisions because they are obviously too young to do so, but there are people who descend into a mad rage if anyone questions whether it is prudent for a child to choose to change genders.

I don’t have a good answer for this really complicated and fraught question of choosing to change one’s body to match society’s false gender binary in a way that accords with one’s feelings, as a child no less! The thing that blows my mind is the fanatical insistence that the answer is clear, obvious, and only morally correct if the child has absolute autonomy to choose something so serious and final in their minority years.

I was fortunate not to have to go through this in my life, in that my kids seem satisfied with the gender of their birth. They don’t feel that mismatch between outer body and inner feelings. I feel for those who have such a mismatch and hope they find the best solution.

But I don’t know that it is obviously the case that giving children medical treatments to change the body is just self-evidently the only right decision. Kids can’t drive, join the military, or vote, but, hey, sure, let them choose to alter their bodies permanently.

?

It’s that clear to you?

It isn’t to me.

I support people in their decisions, and this is a tough decision. Is there one right answer here? I don’t know.
This isn’t a tuff decision to me. Altering your child’s gender at an early age is child abuse! Look at all the choices that are skipped over in the video I presented. Once the boy grows up he could grow out of his “feminine “ phase. He could grow up to be an effeminate male. He could be gay. But to take all those choices away from him and go straight to “you’re transgender” we’re going to chemically castrate you, is absolutely ridiculous. There’s lots of transgender people who regret transitioning and go back to living how they presented before. The kid in the video has no idea what’s happening inside his body at the age of eight.


If you had a child suffering from BIID, would you let them cut off a limb at the age of eight?
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Its awesome to see real Americans stand up to right wing fascists who reject science.
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K Graham wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 2:31 pm
Its awesome to see real Americans stand up to right wing fascists who reject science.
Yes!! We understand science has become your religion. So much so!! You would chemically castrate a child!
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Atlanticmike wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 2:35 pm
K Graham wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 2:31 pm
Its awesome to see real Americans stand up to right wing fascists who reject science.
Yes!! We understand science has become your religion. So much so!! You would chemically castrate a child!
Who is chemically castrating children? No one.

Tell me AM, what happens with the hermaphrodites who are born with both male and female genitals? Who gets to decide what they can identify as? Because historically your "religion" has cast them aside as abominations before God.

I really have no idea why the Right is so idiotically opposed to science in favor of a religion that has a history of getting nothing right. Why is it so hard to conceive of the possibility that the differences between men and women go well beyond what shows up between their legs at birth? Both are driven by hormonal activity and some men have more estrogen than testosterone, and vice versa. Sexual attraction has nothing to do with what kind of genitalia you have, that's just an ignorant, religious statement from the fascists who bemoan science.
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This isn’t a tuff decision to me. Altering your child’s gender at an early age is child abuse! Look at all the choices that are skipped over in the video I presented. Once the boy grows up he could grow out of his “feminine “ phase. He could grow up to be an effeminate male. He could be gay. But to take all those choices away from him and go straight to “you’re transgender” we’re going to chemically castrate you, is absolutely ridiculous. There’s lots of transgender people who regret transitioning and go back to living how they presented before. The kid in the video has no idea what’s happening inside his body at the age of eight.


If you had a child suffering from BIID, would you let them cut off a limb at the age of eight?
I think the overall issue is tough, and the specific example is tough too. I would have to be in the situation to know how to react to it. It is a complicated question that requires a lot more than reading a piece of journalism to get right.
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K Graham wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 2:48 pm
Atlanticmike wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 2:35 pm


Yes!! We understand science has become your religion. So much so!! You would chemically castrate a child!
Who is chemically castrating children? No one.

True. The court ruled that any such treatment would need to be agreed upon by both parents. This guy’s claims should be taken with a grain of salt, considering his fairly fat list of lies about his past education, career, marriage situations and military service.

This site provides additional details about the conflict between him and his ex-wife (a pediatrician):

https://heavy.com/news/2019/10/anne-georgulas/amp/

Chemical castration is achieved through injection and must be continued to retain its effect. It is reversible (stop the injections). I do wish that anyone subject to it would at least have entered their teen years and be able to give their own full and informed consent before proceeding.

Tell me AM, what happens with the hermaphrodites who are born with both male and female genitals? Who gets to decide what they can identify as? Because historically your "religion" has cast them aside as abominations before God.
I hope that Atlanticmike is as concerned about ‘gay conversion therapy’.

In a weird twist, the father of this child “was discharged from the Army due to admission of homosexuality,” according to court records.
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canpakes wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 5:00 pm
K Graham wrote:
Sun Mar 06, 2022 2:48 pm


Who is chemically castrating children? No one.

True. The court ruled that any such treatment would need to be agreed upon by both parents. This guy’s claims should be taken with a grain of salt, considering his fairly fat list of lies about his past education, career, marriage situations and military service.

This site provides additional details about the conflict between him and his ex-wife (a pediatrician):

https://heavy.com/news/2019/10/anne-georgulas/amp/

Chemical castration is achieved through injection and must be continued to retain its effect. It is reversible (stop the injections). I do wish that anyone subject to it would at least have entered their teen years and be able to give their own full and informed consent before proceeding.

Tell me AM, what happens with the hermaphrodites who are born with both male and female genitals? Who gets to decide what they can identify as? Because historically your "religion" has cast them aside as abominations before God.
I hope that Atlanticmike is as concerned about ‘gay conversion therapy’.

In a weird twist, the father of this child “was discharged from the Army due to admission of homosexuality,” according to court records.
Typical progressive! Trying to compare Homosexuality to transgenderism. Transgender people can be gay, straight, bisexual, asexual, etc. you're not a homophobe are you?
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