Public Space and Public Education

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ajax18 wrote:
Wed Apr 06, 2022 11:11 pm
Jersey Girl wrote:
Wed Apr 06, 2022 10:17 pm


Do you think they need to be discussing transgender persons?
What's the percetage of transgender 1st graders now? If it's a transgender teacher, then no. Just don't bring it up. And yes one question always leads to another with kids. What I don't want is for the public school system to be deliberately seeding young childrens minds, especially prepubescent children with thoughts like I might be gay. There are a very minute number of people with same gender attraction or are actual hermaphrodites with a real gender dysphoria. But the skyrocketing numbers of LGBTQ we're seeing now is due to deliberate societal conditioning and promotion of such behaviors. We really are a modern day Sodom and Gomorrah.
I don't like the schools taking this on to start with but as I indicated, I haven't really researched these initiatives so I'd rather not comment on proposed changes to curriculum until I think I know what I'm talking about. I think pre-teens already naturally wonder about their sexual orientation. I think transgender and sexual orientation are two very different things. Intersexed persons is yet another separate matter and people don't know what they're actually talking about when they use the term.

There's a lot of ignorance out there. That much I do know.
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Ajax wrote:I honestly don't have the time to screen my kids Disney movies. So I'm probably just going to cancel Disney + or have them watch something else, perhaps from daily wire.
You might consider far more aggressive policies than that, including homeschooling.
Ajax wrote:Up to 20% of the rising generation view themselves as intersex
How many kids do you have? Suppose you have 3, then that means there's a 49% chance that at least one will view themselves(lol) as intersex.

If you really believe what you're telling us, then you'd better batten down the hatches. Since this Florida law is getting way ahead of what is actually happening anywhere, then that 20% doesn't even reflect the indoctrination of sub 10 year olds by the government yet.
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I am dumbfounded by America’s cult of the child. We should have seen this coming years ago with the preschool pedophile hysteria. Now the safety of children has become the core belief and principal priority of the popular quasi-Christian cult of America’s Right.

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And this concern has reached the level of full blown myth making and conspiracy theorizing. The imagination of so many radical “conservative” Americans is crowded with nightmares about hordes of pedophiles behind every bush and crouching in every dark corner. It’s insane.
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ajax18 wrote:
Wed Apr 06, 2022 11:11 pm
Jersey Girl wrote:
Wed Apr 06, 2022 10:17 pm


Do you think they need to be discussing transgender persons?
What's the percetage of transgender 1st graders now?
The same as the percentage of transgender teens. Difference is, they don't know they're transgender yet.
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When I wrote this in reply to ajax:
Intersexed persons is yet another separate matter and people don't know what they're actually talking about when they use the term.
Gad this comment of yours is what I was talking about. I think you are using the term intersex incorrectly. Intersex and transgender mean two different things. I think you meant to say transgender. Feel free to correct me if you think I am wrong. Perhaps I'm missing something. Or you are. ;)
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Wed Apr 06, 2022 11:44 pm

How many kids do you have? Suppose you have 3, then that means there's a 49% chance that at least one will view themselves(lol) as intersex.
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ajax18 wrote:
Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:49 pm
The controversial bill refers to a motion passed by the Florida Senate that bans the discussion of sexual orientation or identity in schools for children under the age of 10
https://www.newsweek.com/mark-hamill-be ... ay-1687042

There is no reason kids under 10 need to be discussing sexual orientation in a public school setting.
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ajax18 wrote:
Wed Apr 06, 2022 8:20 pm
Where would you rather live?
He can't afford to live in Massachusetts. The reason he moved to Texas was to avoid more taxes.
And miss out on my kids being indoctrinated in homosexuality and critical race theory? Why on earth would anyone not want to go to Massachusetts and pay higher taxes for such a privilege. And Texas is getting a law like Floridas thankfully.
Well, if you go to Massachusetts your kids would get a much better education which makes them smarter. The average SAT score in Massachusetts is 1184. It's a paltry 1007 in West Virginia, and only 1003 in Texas (And despite what you might think, critical race theory is not on the SAT--that isn't what they are teaching in Massachusetts to get such high test scores).

The tradeoff is that if you pay more in taxes, you live in a better society with more jobs, with higher paying jobs, and less poverty. Who wouldn't want that for their kids?
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The tradeoff is that if you pay more in taxes, you live in a better society with more jobs, with higher paying jobs, and less poverty. Who wouldn't want that for their kids?
Then why are businesses fleeing California for places like Plano, Texas? You're looking at it from the perspective of the globalist economic elite, who make on average 400 times the salary of their workers, which often amounts to Uyghur slave labor in places like China. During America's golden age that ratio was around 20:1. I'm an economic nationalist with an America first agenda, in stark contrast to people like Mitt Romney and Larry Fink.
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ajax18 wrote:
Thu Apr 07, 2022 2:46 pm
The tradeoff is that if you pay more in taxes, you live in a better society with more jobs, with higher paying jobs, and less poverty. Who wouldn't want that for their kids?
Then why are businesses fleeing California for places like Plano, Texas?
California has an astronomical cost of living because a ton of people want to live there.

When a corporation makes a move away from California, it's usually to increase the wealth of the owners and executives. It isn't done for the benefit of the rank-and-file employees.

There is a reason that as companies have fled blue states, the wealth gap between the executive class and the working class as increased at an exponential rate.
ajax18 wrote:
Thu Apr 07, 2022 2:46 pm
You're looking at it from the perspective of the globalist economic elite, who make on average 400 times the salary of their workers, which often amounts to Uyghur slave labor in places like China. During America's golden age that ratio was around 20:1.
I've gone from a Marxist to a globalist economic elitist in one post. Who'd a thunk?
ajax18 wrote:
Thu Apr 07, 2022 2:46 pm
I'm an economic nationalist with an America first agenda, in stark contrast to people like Mitt Romney and Larry Fink.
You are a useful idiot spewing propaganda on behalf of the politically powerful and the ultra-rich who own them. Keep voting for people like Trump and America's economic and intellectual capital will continue to collapse, the national debt will continue to explode, and the nation's wealth will continue to percolate away from the working class and into the pockets of the billionaires.
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Analytics wrote:
Thu Apr 07, 2022 3:04 pm
Keep voting for people like Trump and America's economic and intellectual capital will continue to collapse, the national debt will continue to explode, and the nation's wealth will continue to percolate away from the working class and into the pockets of the billionaires.
Alas yes.

But somehow Trump manages to make some people feel he actually cares about them. However, his personal life and career, in both business and politics, indicate that he cares for nobody but himself.
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