do I understand the definition of a woman?

[Markk]

are somehow a biological woman

To be very clear, I did NOT say that. I do think that a person with complete androgen insensitivity is a biological male who has a vagina, a clitoris, female breasts, and tumor-like underdeveloped testicles somewhere in the belly.

So answer my question, Is a true gonadal intersex person a biological man or a biological woman?

Well baby steps are good, you finally admit that a person with CAIS is a biological male,,,In other words, not a female…unless they decide to identify as one. That really was not that hard DT.

Like I wrote, a intersex person carries a mutation or disease that has affected their body probably caused by pesticide, at least according to your link. I would assume they are are neither male or female medically speaking, in that their body is skewed do too a abnormality and mutation. We do know, again according to your link that you obviously did not read, is that it is a sort of mutation or abnormal result of a union between a biological man and woman, again probably because of an ingested poison. But to answer your question, medically speaking they are neither male or female but “intersex”…so again they have to decide whether to identify as either male or female, which is typically assigned by the doctor or they can identify as being intersexual. Is that fair, no….is it easy to accept…no…is it a true biological fact…yes.

So please give me your summary and conclusion of CAIS and PAIS as I have given you..and why are you a biological male ?

[Themis]

And what is an adult female human being? Please don't give me circular reasoning.

A woman. It is a biological woman….if healthy, a woman that can reproduce and carry forward all the traits or a woman naturally without any medical help.

That's not a definition I am familiar from the ancients. They didn't consider the ability to get pregnant as a qualification to be a woman or female biologically. If one had breasts and a vagina they were female period. Having and XY chromosome but developing breasts and a vagina meant they were female and not male. This is how people and societies defined sex and gender for thousands of years. Even today if one has an XY but develops breasts and a vagina we usually assign them as female biologically and socially. If you had bothered to read some of the quotes from experts people have provided you would realize for a small number of people biological sex ends up being fuzzy.

[honorentheos]

Markk -

Do you believe that human beings are an evolved species sharing a common ancestor with other life on Earth'? Or are we specially created as a species?

[doubtingthomas]

I would assume they are are neither male or female medically speaking, in that their body is skewed do too a abnormality and mutation.

Oh my God! Oh my God! Is it the end of the world?

Are you saying that not everyone has a biological sex?

probably because of an ingested poison.

Probably? What is the biological sex of someone with "X0" or "XXY" chromosomes? Is someone with "XXX" chromosomes a female porn star?

That really was not that hard DT.

When did I say a person with CAIS is not a biological male? The problem is that you are not reading carefully what I am asking and saying. It is not hard to carefully read something.

you would realize for a small number of people biological sex ends up being fuzzy.

Jesus Christ! When did I deny that? You are adding too many words to my mouth.

And the in the belly tumor is just another lame straw-man you just started

See, you keep adding words to my mouth. When did I say it was a "belly tumor" or a "tumor"? Show me. It is obvious you are not carefully reading what I am saying and you simply add words to my mouth.

A woman. It is a biological woman….if healthy, a woman that can reproduce and carry forward all the traits or a woman naturally without any medical help.

Markk! I am not asking to explain what a healthy woman is. I am asking you to define a "biological woman". And just because some women can't reproduce doesn't mean they are unhealthy, you have some issues Markk.

What is a "biological woman"?

[doubtingthomas]

Markk -

Do you believe that human beings are an evolved species sharing a common ancestor with other life on Earth'? Or are we specially created as a species?

Markk just said, "I would assume they are are neither male or female medically speaking, in that their body is skewed do too a abnormality and mutation"

Markk's god is a butthole.

[Markk]

Markk -

Do you believe that human beings are an evolved species sharing a common ancestor with other life on Earth'? Or are we specially created as a species?

Start a thread on evolution if you like, and i will join in if we ever get done here.

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

So please give me your summary and conclusion of CAIS and PAIS as I have given you..and why are you a biological male ?

- Doc

[Markk]

Oh my God! Oh my God! Is it the end of the world?

Are you saying that not everyone has a biological sex?

What I am saying is that a male and or female fetus has been skewed and messed up.And as a result have a mixed bag of genes. Which does not in anyway keep us from defining what a “heathy unimpaired” male or female is.

When did I say a person with CAIS is not a biological male? The problem is that you are not reading carefully what I am asking and saying. It is not hard to carefully read something.

No th e problem is you can’t have a honest discussion and summarize your position and thoughts. You get flustered and have to resort to an ad-hom type of conversation…which just reinforces my position. You have been waffling back and forth so what you position is difficult at best to understand. So once again please summarize your position, as i have, in that we have pretty much gone full circle.

A biological woman/female is the being that naturally conceive and brings for other beings…I have said this several ways…if you don’t understand this, and how people are created and brought forth I have a long er road explaining this than I thought.

You ducked my question…you said of course you are a biological man…”why…what makes you a biological man?”

[honorentheos]

Markk -

Do you believe that human beings are an evolved species sharing a common ancestor with other life on Earth'? Or are we specially created as a species?

Start a thread on evolution if you like, and i will join in if we ever get done here.

It matters to this thread.

[Themis]

A biological woman/female is the being that naturally conceive and brings for other beings…I have said this several ways

I know a number of biological woman/females that cannot conceive. I suspect in reality you would still consider them women.