Re: The 2nd Amendment in the 21st Century
Posted: Wed Jun 29, 2022 3:56 pm
The current conversation reminded me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDvugsSjI6s
These were and are your arguments for an armed civilian population:
I think Chap, Honor, Manetho and PG make rational observations vis a vis a military that can dominate the air, land, sea, and political equation to the point of defeating us and occupying our territories. I’ll chip in a few more.Dr. Shades wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 1:00 pmMass shooters seem to scare a lot of people. Imagine how many mass shooters would appear when and where invading soldiers congregated. Do you think a potential invading force wouldn't be aware of that?
I didn't think the deterrent effect of an armed populace required any explanation.
All gun-owning civilians behind the front lines will become snipers.
Logistics - say you have 5,000 rounds of ammunition and you volunteered to be part of a militia. Your supply of ammunition will be divvied up and expended relatively quickly, especially if you’re engaging in formalized warfare. So any efforts you expend as a civilian, fighting with other civilians within this context will be performative at best, and an absolute crap show at worst <- the latter is most likely the outcome.
Guerrilla warfare - say you and the local population decide to wage a guerrilla style campaign to bleed the occupying forces. You’re still at square one because of the lack of logistics, the lack of control over your air, land, sea, and intelligence domains. The occupying forces can just hang out in the sky and either pick you off from above, or coordinate with ground forces to kill you through direct and indirect action. Additionally, any action you take will most likely result in severe repercussions for the civilian population. There’d be mass executions and depopulation by any force that has the ability to control the battle space.
Partisan infighting- you will have significant political divisions within the population. You’ll have collaborators. You’ll have mass purges. You’ll fight other Americans who have their own agenda. Your resources will be gone - you may have guns but you won’t have ammunition depots, food banks, supply lines, political harmony, and layered competency.
Total war - any foreign governments with the ability to invade our country will either levy total war so our country’s infrastructure is destroyed, population centers will be leveled, mass refugees will flood north and south, and mass death is laid on the land on an unimaginable scale, or they’ll be invited to set up bases that are heavily guarded and will use political means to achieve their aims through a compliant puppet government, which will have the resources to simply snatch you away in the middle of the night, wherever you are. Sure, you can set up a resistance network, but it’ll be degraded and destroyed over time. Your AR-15 is as useless as tits on a chicken at this point.
IF, and this is the big IF, these foreign governments have the political will and the means to lay siege on our country and conduct Total War, your guns and your bravado will simply be worthless. You may “die on your feet”, but you will die and any sort of long-term political change you can effect will vanish along with your gun.
- Doc
