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Re: 47th President of the USA Ron DeSantis

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 2:48 pm
by Vēritās
DeSantis.

Isn't he the same anti-Free market tyrant who used his government position to punish private companies like Disney and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, simply because their free speech offended his sensibilities?

Re: 47th President of the USA Ron DeSantis

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:04 pm
by canpakes
Vēritās wrote:
Thu Jun 16, 2022 2:48 pm
DeSantis.

Isn't he the same anti-Free market tyrant who used his government position to punish private companies like Disney and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, simply because their free speech offended his sensibilities?

That’s the fellow.

“When we were young, you could watch cartoons without having to worry.” - DeSantis

Meanwhile:

Re: 47th President of the USA Ron DeSantis

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:34 pm
by honorentheos
canpakes wrote:
Thu Jun 16, 2022 4:04 pm
Vēritās wrote:
Thu Jun 16, 2022 2:48 pm
DeSantis.

Isn't he the same anti-Free market tyrant who used his government position to punish private companies like Disney and the Tampa Bay Buccaneers, simply because their free speech offended his sensibilities?

That’s the fellow.

“When we were young, you could watch cartoons without having to worry.” - DeSantis

Meanwhile:
Ah, but those are cartoons where showing a male dressed like a female is relying on the cultural understanding of gender norms to set up a joke. So those are cool.

Re: 47th President of the USA Ron DeSantis

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 5:59 pm
by Hawkeye
honorentheos wrote:
Thu Jun 16, 2022 1:29 pm
How do you think he will manage government spending? Please try and be specific. Which programs would he put more money into? Which would he divert funds away? Do you see the national debt declining under a DeSantis administration? How?
I think he'll be similar to Trump on policy. You won't have open borders, wage depression, and the importation of poverty that you had under Republicans like GWB. He might even be a little further to the right than Trump on COVID shutdowns and subsequent inflation generating money printing to be doled out as stimulus handouts. I think he would put money into the military when it comes to taking care of veterans. But he might also demand that countries like those in western Europe, Japan, Taiwan, South Korea, pay their share in military spending rather than just offering US weapons, labor, blood, and money for free.

I could see him following an economic nationalist agenda on trade in the global market place in contrast to free market purists like Cinepro, so we could see income from tariffs hitting back against Chinese currency manipulation and more money just from better deals made for the American worker. And yes he would more than likely cut taxes and roll back excessive environmental regulations to attract investors back into the USA that have fled overseas. Ultimately we'd actually be collecting more tax money with the lower rates than we did with the higher rates.

Re: 47th President of the USA Ron DeSantis

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 6:26 pm
by honorentheos
To summarize, you expect:

- Protectionist tariffs on imports
- Increased military spending
- Protectionist trade negotiations
- Increased tax cuts
- Reduced spending on environmental regulation and programs

Is that accurate?

Re: 47th President of the USA Ron DeSantis

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 8:27 pm
by Doctor CamNC4Me
honorentheos wrote:
Thu Jun 16, 2022 6:26 pm
To summarize, you expect:

- Protectionist tariffs on imports
- Increased military spending
- Protectionist trade negotiations
- Increased tax cuts
- Reduced spending on environmental regulation and programs

Is that accurate?
I think you pulled up waaaaay too soon. Way too soon. Like, where Xanax wants to go, and by extension where the kooky shiteaters known as the GQP (now pinging at about 80% of the Right’s voting base) want to go, it’s safe to say, and I’m not even being facetious, that they want our country to be a ‘neo-fascist NüChristian Banana Republic police state hyper colonial-military expansionist ethno state kleptocracy’.

- Doc

Re: 47th President of the USA Ron DeSantis

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 8:51 pm
by Hawkeye
honorentheos wrote:
Thu Jun 16, 2022 6:26 pm
To summarize, you expect:

- Protectionist tariffs on imports
- Increased military spending
- Protectionist trade negotiations
- Increased tax cuts
- Reduced spending on environmental regulation and programs

Is that accurate?
I'd also expect border enforcement and hence a reduction in medicaid and child welfare spending.

There's no increase to the tax cuts. I'm just asking to allow working people to keep a larger percentage of what they earn. I'm also asking that welfare benefits not be competitive with wages to the point where we are seeing labor shortages that we have seen since the Democrats basically used COVID to seize power in 2020.

Re: 47th President of the USA Ron DeSantis

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 9:58 pm
by Chap
Just to make sure I understand -

"Hawkeye" is just "ajax18" with a different hat on, isn't he?

And the mods are cool with that, right?

Re: 47th President of the USA Ron DeSantis

Posted: Thu Jun 16, 2022 11:24 pm
by Doctor CamNC4Me
Chap wrote:
Thu Jun 16, 2022 9:58 pm
Just to make sure I understand -

"Hawkeye" is just "ajax18" with a different hat on, isn't he?

And the mods are cool with that, right?
Naturally.

- Doc

Re: 47th President of the USA Ron DeSantis

Posted: Fri Jun 17, 2022 12:40 am
by honorentheos
Chap wrote:
Thu Jun 16, 2022 9:58 pm
Just to make sure I understand -

"Hawkeye" is just "ajax18" with a different hat on, isn't he?

And the mods are cool with that, right?
Shade allowed existing socks to be grandfathered in. His preference was people pick one but he said they would not retroactively enforce the rule. That's fair enough.