I am going to reply to your relatives, canpakes.
I know you probably think it is of no use, but when I read this post, I knew I was meant to reply to it based on the previous posts of mine where I went out on a limb and made suggestions about how to approach Christians who are let's say, caught up in MAGA and off base according to the Bible.
I am no Bible scholar, but I think I am equipped enough to reply to the ideas of theirs that you have shared.
I don't know who the Enlows are but I will find out. Beyond that, I will reply here
later today when I've got time to sit with it and do my best to make a response here. I went out on a limb and posted my ideas here. I think it is my responsibility to act on what I myself forwarded here.
I'll have to pull the politics out of it and appeal to their ideas according to the very foundation of their argument like I suggested we all do whenever we are faced with that opportunity.
I already know what approach I plan to take, I just have to get things done and hopefully if there's anything I missed in my plan, it will come to me while I am out and about. But
you can count on me to make a reply to this.
I've
bolded the focal point of my reply. I think this is important.
canpakes wrote: ↑Wed Aug 03, 2022 1:47 pm
Jersey Girl wrote: ↑
cp I went back and viewed your original post. You really said crap.
Yes, I ‘said crap’.
I’ve seen at least two dear relatives decide to take the train to Crazy Town and go full in on the most batshit nutty election crap. And although they were on the evangelical side of things prior to 2020 (‘dinosaur bones’ are tools of Satan!), they’ve just let themselves be led further into that madness by folks who operate under the guise of being a mouthpiece for God, like the Enlows. There’s no longer any tether to reality along those lines for them.
I’ve only had a chance to skim your reply so far; I’ll read it more carefully in a moment. I will mention, though - with regard to your suggestion to engage these faithful folks with their own weapon - I once asked a relative to shed some light on their abortion rationale given that abortion isn’t mentioned as forbidden within the Bible, and that Numbers 5:11-31 actually contains an ‘abortion recipe’ and application (‘unfaithful wife = abort the kid’). Their response was a full page of the most tortured interpretive reading of scripture that I’ve ever seen, basically giving the message that what is literally written within the Bible is substantially less important for some believers than how they want to spin it to fit their position.
In other words, the source material for their faith is just as easily tossed aside in an argument if that makes it more convenient for some to maintain that they’re ‘right’. End result: God is on their side, even if God said something different or nothing at all … and you can’t argue with God. So everyone better do as God (i.e. the believer) wants, and God (i.e. the believer) will make you do it via legislation, if necessary.
It’s a great way to just push off the discussion onto the invisible entity, then sit back and stop thinking about it, while advancing an agenda.