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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/articl ... ailymailus
A Ukrainian pensioner shot down a Russian Su-34 jet with a rifle, sending it spiralling to the ground, a government agency has said.

Valeriy Fedorovych opened fire when the enemy aircraft flew overhead in Chernhiv, according to the State Border Service of Ukraine.

It is claimed he picked off the jet, which costs an estimated £74million, and footage circulating at the time showed it careening back down to earth, although he was not seen in the video.
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LOL! That picture.
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I'm not buying it. Not for a second. The absolute minimum speed at which it would've been traveling just to stay airborne would've meant that the shooter would've had to place a significant "lead" on his aim. . . the more so if it was traveling quickly. And this lead would've been no easy feat, 'cause he would've had to accurately pinpoint just how far above him it was in order to make the bullet meet the plane.

Consider also the amount of 50-caliber bullets it took to take down a World War II aircraft. To take down this one with only a single shot--especially considering the much smaller size of a round from this particular gun--would've required a direct hit to one of its jet engine's intake ports, not some random part of the hull. And even then it'd be a far cry from a guarantee.

So, the shooter would've needed a superhuman gauge of its speed, a superhuman gauge of its altitude, combined with a near-infinitely lucky shot to just the right part its body. Therefore, I'm calling this as a fabricated feel-good story for propaganda purposes.
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Tue Sep 06, 2022 9:38 am
I'm not buying it. Not for a second. The absolute minimum speed at which it would've been traveling just to stay airborne would've meant that the shooter would've had to place a significant "lead" on his aim. . . the more so if it was traveling quickly. And this lead would've been no easy feat, 'cause he would've had to accurately pinpoint just how far above him it was in order to make the bullet meet the plane.

Consider also the amount of 50-caliber bullets it took to take down a World War II aircraft. To take down this one with only a single shot--especially considering the much smaller size of a round from this particular gun--would've required a direct hit to one of its jet engine's intake ports, not some random part of the hull. And even then it'd be a far cry from a guarantee.

So, the shooter would've needed a superhuman gauge of its speed, a superhuman gauge of its altitude, combined with a near-infinitely lucky shot to just the right part its body. Therefore, I'm calling this as a fabricated feel-good story for propaganda purposes.
Agreed, the article is ridiculous.

And.... in the picture, the fella is holding a shotgun.

Much of the news out of Ukraine is equally ridiculous. This one just happened to get my attention for all the reasons you pointed out and the picture of a dude holding a shotgun. I mean hell, Dick Cheney shot his buddy at close range with a shotgun and he was fine. Damn sure ain't hitting an aircraft with one of those.
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Tue Sep 06, 2022 9:38 am
Therefore, I'm calling this as a fabricated feel-good story for propaganda purposes.
Sort of like Trump claiming a hole in one.
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Binger wrote:
Tue Sep 06, 2022 1:06 pm
. I mean hell, Dick Cheney shot his buddy at close range with a shotgun and he was fine. Damn sure ain't hitting an aircraft with one of those.
He was "fine"?

For your next trick, have a drunk friend of a friend shoot you with a shotgun, take a trip to the ICU and tell us how you feel about it...
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Father Francis wrote:
Tue Sep 06, 2022 2:59 pm
Binger wrote:
Tue Sep 06, 2022 1:06 pm
. I mean hell, Dick Cheney shot his buddy at close range with a shotgun and he was fine. Damn sure ain't hitting an aircraft with one of those.
He was "fine"?

For your next trick, have a drunk friend of a friend shoot you with a shotgun, take a trip to the ICU and tell us how you feel about it...
Oh now. Cheney said he was fine, he must have been. Like this guy with the shotgun, they said he shot down a plane.
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I don't know how anyone can't believe the story, I mean the media reported it, right?
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I don't know. All my Second Amendment enthusiast friends imagine this sort of thing happening all the time if war were to break out. I mean, imagine how much earlier Russia may have invaded if there weren't folks like this gentleman ready to take down multi-million dollar aircraft with a firearm? The NRA should invite the man to speak at their next convention.
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honorentheos wrote:
Wed Sep 07, 2022 1:59 am
I don't know. All my Second Amendment enthusiast friends imagine this sort of thing happening all the time if war were to break out. I mean, imagine how much earlier Russia may have invaded if there weren't folks like this gentleman ready to take down multi-million dollar aircraft with a firearm? The NRA should invite the man to speak at their next convention.
This is a very good point. Seems like we were told recently that the US can't be invaded because the population in general is so heavily armed.
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Gadianton wrote:
Wed Sep 07, 2022 2:23 am
honorentheos wrote:
Wed Sep 07, 2022 1:59 am
I don't know. All my Second Amendment enthusiast friends imagine this sort of thing happening all the time if war were to break out. I mean, imagine how much earlier Russia may have invaded if there weren't folks like this gentleman ready to take down multi-million dollar aircraft with a firearm? The NRA should invite the man to speak at their next convention.
This is a very good point. Seems like we were told recently that the US can't be invaded because the population in general is so heavily armed.
Yeah. Guess I have egg on my face now that a man proved a sophisticated military aircraft could, in fact, be brought down by a good guy with a gun. And it wasn't even an American-made AR-15!
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