So is Putin going to nuke us all or what?

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Re: So is Putin going to nuke us all or what?

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Binger wrote:
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:13 am
I don't know what your post means.
I think it means that one can think that Putin is a real POS and also think that the key USA players and NATO knew exactly what they were doing to instigate this war and Putin's reaction.
Please explain how the US and NATO instigated the war.
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Oh, boy. Can’t wait for overt B.S. to be posted by a dingbat only to be thoroughly rebutted that they then ignore.

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Let's hope the Russian people realize the danger Putin poses and act accordingly. Likewise, I hope our people can realize the danger Trump poses.
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:13 am
High Spy wrote:
Thu Sep 22, 2022 4:24 am
3 Guys who say “Lighten up Francis” on KFQD explained how they’ll fake elections in new areas, then claim we’re attacking Russia to justify nuclear defense.
I don't know what your post means.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russian-nukes-can-be-used-defend-annexed-ukraine-regions-kremlin-warns wrote:
… confirmed referendums of occupied portions of Ukraine to join the Russian Federation.
KFQD is one of my local favorite radio stations and the quote above is different language to describe “fake elections”.
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MeDotOrg wrote:
Thu Sep 22, 2022 7:14 pm
Binger wrote:
Thu Sep 22, 2022 1:36 pm


I think it means that one can think that Putin is a real POS and also think that the key USA players and NATO knew exactly what they were doing to instigate this war and Putin's reaction.
Please explain how the US and NATO instigated the war.
Been there. Done that. Whatev.

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It has become especially fashionable in such circles to insist that NATO’s expansion to Russia’s border was in no way responsible for the current Ukraine crisis. Many dismiss all arguments to the contrary as “echoing Putin’s talking points,” “siding with Putin,” or circulating Russian propaganda and “disinformation.” Leaving aside the ugly miasma of McCarthyism enveloping such allegations, the underlying argument is factually wrong.
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Moksha wrote:
Thu Sep 22, 2022 9:30 pm
Likewise, I hope our people can realize the danger Trump poses.
The people who already understand Trump poses a threat to America are the only ones perceiving the danger. It's only dingbats and ignoramuses that still don't see the obvious menace Trump represents after the daily evidence we've had for the last seven years.

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Doctor Steuss wrote:
Thu Sep 22, 2022 5:53 pm
I wrap myself in a (naïve?) blanket of "There's always a Vasily Arkhipov."
I sincerely hope you're right about there being another "Vasily Arkhipov" in the wings that can yet again block Putin from using the nuclear option. If anyone here hasn't yet googled the name to see what he did, please do so. His story is very interesting and inspiring.
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Even the Russian people in Russia itself have a growing awareness of how irrational is Putin's euphemistically named "special military operation." I would guess that a large proportion of native Russian speakers in Ukraine would be even more aware of that than those still in Russia, because I doubt the Ukrainian government is cracking down on freedom of speech and of the press like Putin is in Russia. It is my understanding that a high proportion of native Russian speakers in Ukraine are as averse to the idea of living under a Putin dictatorship as any other Ukrainian. Surely many of them must realize that if Putin resorts to nuclear tactical weapons in Ukraine, they will almost certainly not escape all of the terrible consequences suffered by non-Russian Ukrainians. Many of them have already suffered as badly as their most unfortunate native Ukrainian counterparts.
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Ukraine is not just content to retake their invaded lands but aims to topple the Putin regime by marching on Moscow if necessary. For this reason Nancy Pelosi has upgraded the classification of Russia to a terrorist state. I can't see Putin being toppled without firing back with nuclear weapons first.
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Hawkeye wrote:
Fri Sep 23, 2022 6:27 pm
UFor this reason Nancy Pelosi has upgraded the classification of Russia to a terrorist state.
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Graham introduced a resolution all the way back in May to designate Russia as a state sponsor of terrorism, and received unanimous consent in July.
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