Are marriage vows still a thing on the Right?

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Are marriage vows still a thing on the Right?

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District 14 Georgia Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene's husband, Perry Greene, filed for divorce in Floyd County Superior Court on Wednesday saying that the marriage is “irretrievably broken," Rome News-Tribune reports.
It’s not a facetious question, by the way. When I hear that the Right values the institution of marriage, I feel like it’s akin to the Left valuing the life of a fetus - it’s all a personal choice, no god nor clergy can change a person’s mind when it comes to the sacredness of a marriage vow made before god or that of a developing human’s life.

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RIP, another Conservative marriage sworn before god and man.

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Hey Cam,

I would imagine that marriage vows are still a thing for many people - no matter where one happens to fall on the political spectrum. in my opinion and quite unfortunately, marriage vows, broadly speaking, are indeed becoming much less of a thing across the board.
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D. Cam wrote:by the way. When I hear that the Right values the institution of marriage,
Well, in the case of culture warrior "leaders" like MTG, we're not actually dealing with Christians but opportunists. If we pretend these people really are Christians, then sure, the hypocrisy is astounding. If you're going to demand the USA become a Christian dictatorship and can't shut up about it, then one would expect these folks set the example. That's tough to say when aside from marriage fidelity, it's nonstop lying through their teeth about the dumbest things, but, "lying for the Lord" is weirdly, a kind of religious fidelity itself, so for the sake of this analysis, I can overlook it. However, failing in moral dimensions that Christians do value is a different matter. Again, mainly when running your mouth publicly to tens of millions in condemnation of other people for not accepting Christian values.

The MJTs and Boeberts don't really get under my skin because dirt bag loudmouths are a dime a dozen. Why wouldn't horrifically underqualified people snatch up important government positions if they can get away with it? They're living the dream. The greater bother is the moral bankruptcy of the actual Christians who really do believe the Bible and go to church on Sunday who vote these people in. They are the cancer.
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Gadianton wrote:
Thu Sep 29, 2022 10:47 pm
The greater bother is the moral bankruptcy of the actual Christians who really do believe the Bible and go to church on Sunday who vote these people in. They are the cancer.
Religion for most people is really about appearances. If politicians mouth off about god and morality, they are naturally the people a god believer will vote for, because that's part of the show they're running. It's not about common sense, honesty or what's best for humanity, it's about what looks the most pious.

And let's face it: who wouldn't want to divorce MTG if they found themselves in the unfortunate situation where people expect you to sleep with her?

*shudder*
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We didn't vote for Perry Greene. MJT didn't ask for the divorce. I don't really care how good a Christians they are as long as they push back against the welfare, socialism, open borders, scamdemic economy killing policies. defund the police, releasing violent criminals, 1st amendment violations against conservative political opinion, the right of parents to have their kids attend public school and not be inculcated with homosexuality as a moral and upright lifestyle choice. etc. Even if a woman is a bad wife that doesn't make her a welfare queen.
And when the Confederates saw Jackson standing fearless like a stonewall, the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
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ajax18 wrote:
Fri Sep 30, 2022 5:01 pm
We didn't vote for Perry Greene. MJT didn't ask for the divorce. I don't really care how good a Christians they are as long as they push back against the welfare, socialism, open borders, scamdemic economy killing policies. defund the police, releasing violent criminals, 1st amendment violations against conservative political opinion, the right of parents to have their kids attend public school and not be inculcated with homosexuality as a moral and upright lifestyle choice. etc. Even if a woman is a bad wife that doesn't make her a welfare queen.
I’ll take that as a strong, “No.”

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Fri Sep 30, 2022 5:43 pm
ajax18 wrote:
Fri Sep 30, 2022 5:01 pm
We didn't vote for Perry Greene. MJT didn't ask for the divorce. I don't really care how good a Christians they are as long as they push back against the welfare, socialism, open borders, scamdemic economy killing policies. defund the police, releasing violent criminals, 1st amendment violations against conservative political opinion, the right of parents to have their kids attend public school and not be inculcated with homosexuality as a moral and upright lifestyle choice. etc. Even if a woman is a bad wife that doesn't make her a welfare queen.
I’ll take that as a strong, “No.”

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Marriage vows are a thing for me. I don't believe that no fault divorce for any reason a person decides should be legal. I think it's an act of selfishness by at least one and more often than not both of marriage partners that robs their children of one of their parents. But more importantly for me, it's a covenant between myself and God as much as it is a covenant with my wife. That being said, Marie Osmond has been through the temple married and divorced 3 or 4 times. I believe this last time she married ex husband #1 again. So I can't speak for everyone with an R by their name.
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ajax18 wrote:
Fri Sep 30, 2022 7:12 pm
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Fri Sep 30, 2022 5:43 pm
I’ll take that as a strong, “No.”

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Marriage vows are a thing for me. I don't believe that no fault divorce for any reason a person decides should be legal. I think it's an act of selfishness by at least one and more often than not both of marriage partners that robs their children of one of their parents. But more importantly for me, it's a covenant between myself and God as much as it is a covenant with my wife. That being said, Marie Osmond has been through the temple married and divorced 3 or 4 times. I believe this last time she married ex husband #1 again. So I can't speak for everyone with an R by their name.
And unsurprisingly Ajax18 immediately contradicts himself! Nice. Nice one.

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ajax wrote: I don't really care how good a Christians they are as long as they push back against the welfare, socialism, open borders, scamdemic economy killing policies
What specifically has MTG done to push back against welfare, socialism, open borders, and scandemic economy killing policies?

I know she runs her mouth but there is a big question about how much any of your loud mouths do to actually advance your policies. If she and her kind get their way, Christianity will be the official state religion. How is that going to help you economically?

I admit that you're a terrible Christian, Ajax, and for you it's all material / financial concerns and sure, you're not one of those who voted for an MTG type out of love for the cause of a narrow brand of evangelical Christianity; you say you're pro-life but trust me, you don't give a crap. It's about money. So tell me what MTG would do that say, someone like Beto isn't going to do that will put money back into your pocket?
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What specifically has MTG done to push back against welfare, socialism, open borders, and scandemic economy killing policies?
Pretty much every time she votes against the Democrats
If she and her kind get their way, Christianity will be the official state religion. How is that going to help you economically?
How is that going to hurt the economy?
I admit that you're a terrible Christian, Ajax, and for you it's all material / financial concerns and sure,
What makes you or Cam any better? Because your generous with other peoples earnings? Where's the virtue in that? Because Cam retired at 43? If he had was able to save that much money maybe he should have been paying higher taxes. How many times did Cam overpay the federal government to help fund the great welfare state he wants to see expanded? If you were any better than me, you'd be paying more money to the federal government to fund more welfare. But you don't because you're not any better than me. And you don't even know what I do with my earnings. My point has always been that the worker has the right to give or not give of his earnings.

you say you're pro-life but trust me, you don't give a crap.
Now you're just being nasty because I offended you with my antiwelfare and anti socialism stance.

It's about money. So tell me what MTG would do that say, someone like Beto isn't going to do that will put money back into your pocket?
MTG fought against the lockdowns, the inflation generating stimulus packages. Biden still believes that printing money is going to solve inflation. That's partly why things are going to continue to get worse. The far left really does hold some wacky beliefs about economics. The damage they've done with COVID is irreparable.
And when the Confederates saw Jackson standing fearless like a stonewall, the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
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