Does character really matter in politics

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Re: Does character really matter in politics

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I think for most voters it's a matter of economics and for me workers rights and economic nationalism
Except you don't know anything about these topics. You have lots of assumptions, but it's apparent the way you react when information on who spent what is posted that you're oblivious.

Hey, were you one of these folks who donated to Trump's save America fund and got put on recurring donation without being aware of it? lol.
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Besides that, even if the accusations of Warnock being a communist sympathizer really had some small credibility, even communism is no worse that the fascist, tyrannical authoritarianism that Trump and his MAGA/Q anon acolytes are trying to push upon this country!
Gunnar you favor socialism. I favor capitalism. That's really all that matters when we're voting. Neither one of us gives a rip about the other mud slinging.
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Have you listened to Herschel speak? I mean, it is almost always an incoherent jumbled up word salad and he never finishes pronunciation of half the words.
Neither does Biden.

I don't care if Herschel Walker doesn't speak smoothly like a career politician. he loves America and puts America first. Herschel Walker isn't the one shouting Goddam America to roaring approval of People like Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Mandela Barnes, and Obama.
And when the Confederates saw Jackson standing fearless like a stonewall, the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
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ajax18 wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 12:17 pm
Have you listened to Herschel speak? I mean, it is almost always an incoherent jumbled up word salad and he never finishes pronunciation of half the words.
Neither does Biden.

I don't care if Herschel Walker doesn't speak smoothly like a career politician. he loves America and puts America first. Herschel Walker isn't the one shouting Goddam America to roaring approval of People like Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Mandela Barnes, and Obama.
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ajax18 wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 12:17 pm
Have you listened to Herschel speak? I mean, it is almost always an incoherent jumbled up word salad and he never finishes pronunciation of half the words.
Neither does Biden.
That's flat out false, but your idiotic what aboutism is noted.

Biden has had a life long stutter that results from his mind thinking faster than he speaks. Herschel doesn't think at all, and he's never taken the time in life to even try to use proper diction. I've known some uneducated black people before who never had any formal education and they didn't sound anything like this idiot.

People making these comments about Biden have never watched him stand for two hours speaking from a teleprompter, something Walker would never dare try, nor have they watched him respond to a slew of questions from journalists.
I don't care if Herschel Walker doesn't speak smoothly like a career politician.
You don't care about anything other than giving more power to your fascist cult.
he loves America and puts America first.
Based on no evidence whatsoever. All he's promised to do is be the dead head puppet for Trump.

Herschel Walker isn't the one shouting Goddam America to roaring approval of People like Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Mandela Barnes, and Obama.
When you have to lie like this to try to strengthen your point, it is because you never had a valid point to begin with. Your side is literally rooting for Russia right now, and they have been ever since that dictatorship tried to install Trump for a second term.
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ajax18 wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 12:16 pm
Besides that, even if the accusations of Warnock being a communist sympathizer really had some small credibility, even communism is no worse that the fascist, tyrannical authoritarianism that Trump and his MAGA/Q anon acolytes are trying to push upon this country!
Gunnar you favor socialism. I favor capitalism. That's really all that matters when we're voting. Neither one of us gives a rip about the other mud slinging.
Based on what I have seen of your posting history, I don't think you really understand either capitalism or socialism. Gadianton was exactly right when he said:
Except you don't know anything about these topics. You have lots of assumptions, but it's apparent the way you react when information on who spent what is posted that you're oblivious.
Honest entrepreneurship and innovative free market enterprise is the backbone of our democracy and our economy and essential for continuing prosperity, freedom and human rights, but totally unbridled, laisse faire capitalism, with no regulation or social conscience or consideration for anyone other than the wealthy, selfish elite is every bit as evil and dangerous and destructive of freedom as the worst tyranny, whether communistic or fascist.

Democratic socialism as advocated by people like Bernie Sanders and Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and practiced many advanced countries in Europe, notably the Scandinavian countries, does not negate nor prohibit capitalism and free enterprise, and these countries enjoy a higher standard of living, better health care, greater average life expectancy, lower infant death rates, lower violence (especially gun violence) and, I would argue, both better security and just as great (if not better) individual freedom than we Americans currently enjoy. I am not opposed to capitalism per se, just unbridled and heartless greed and avarice which has obviously become the norm for America's most powerful capitalists and corporations.
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Vēritās wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 3:41 pm
ajax18 wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 12:17 pm


Neither does Biden.
That's flat out false, but your idiotic what aboutism is noted.

Biden has had a life long stutter that results from his mind thinking faster than he speaks. Herschel doesn't think at all, and he's never taken the time in life to even try to use proper diction. I've known some uneducated black people before who never had any formal education and they didn't sound anything like this idiot.

People making these comments about Biden have never watched him stand for two hours speaking from a teleprompter, something Walker would never dare try, nor have they watched him respond to a slew of questions from journalists.
I don't care if Herschel Walker doesn't speak smoothly like a career politician.
You don't care about anything other than giving more power to your fascist cult.
he loves America and puts America first.
Based on no evidence whatsoever. All he's promised to do is be the dead head puppet for Trump.

Herschel Walker isn't the one shouting Goddam America to roaring approval of People like Sharpton, Jesse Jackson, Mandela Barnes, and Obama.
When you have to lie like this to try to strengthen your point, it is because you never had a valid point to begin with. Your side is literally rooting for Russia right now, and they have been ever since that dictatorship tried to install Trump for a second term.
Thanks for saying that, Vēritās. It needed to be said, and I couldn't have said it nearly as well. I still can't say that Biden is my favorite choice for President, but he is an incomparably better choice than Trump or any other Republican alternative that I know anything about.
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ajax18 wrote:
Tue Oct 11, 2022 12:17 pm
Have you listened to Herschel speak? I mean, it is almost always an incoherent jumbled up word salad and he never finishes pronunciation of half the words.
Neither does Biden.
Nor Trump. Even Republicans have to preface speaking of Herschel Walker with the notation that he received too many brain concussions, but even so, that left him much brighter than the majority of Georgia Republicans. New Jersey should have sent them Memet Oz.


Besides favoring capitalism, would you also support the reintroduction of the Mason-Dixon line?


Pete Buttigieg is a future candidate with smarts.
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Moksha wrote:
Wed Oct 12, 2022 8:59 am
Pete Buttigieg is a future candidate with smarts.
That's for sure! There are very few politicians of any stripe as or more intelligent, more knowledgeable or more articulate than Buttigieg, let alone Republicans! He has been known to get enthusiastic ovations for his views even from audiences full of FOX fans addressed by him!
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Gunnar wrote:
Wed Oct 12, 2022 9:37 am
Moksha wrote:
Wed Oct 12, 2022 8:59 am
Pete Buttigieg is a future candidate with smarts.
That's for sure! There are very few politicians of any stripe as or more intelligent, more knowledgeable or more articulate than Buttigieg, let alone Republicans! He has been known to get enthusiastic ovations for his views even from audiences full of FOX fans addressed by him!
Don't you suspect that Republicans would rather try to pass through the eye of a needle than support an honest candidate?
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