Will the Republic as we know it end?

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Re: Will the Republic as we know it end?

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If Person B states that they think that the election is stolen, then tries to reverse that election by bogus lawsuits, continual public preaching of lies, and - eventually - a violent incursion into government buildings in an attempt to reverse that election, then that’s quite a different story.
There were a group of 200 rubes who entered the capital illegally. They were gone within a couple hours and Congress certified the election the same day as this supposed coup/violent insurrection occurred. None of those rubes are running for office but you have equated these 200 people with anyone who believes there was significant cheating going on in the 2020 election, which is the same belief that Stacey Abrams continues to contend about the Georgia gubernatorial election of 2018. And when the Republicans win this next round of elections, the left will continue their own big lie that elections were stolen and cast doubt upon whether or not the US has free and fair elections.

Democracy and our Republic as the founding fathers and the Constitution intended ended with the advent of Roosevelt and the great welfare society.
The best part about this is waiting four years to see how all the crazy apocalyptic predictions made by the fear mongering idiots in Right Wing media turned out to be painfully wrong...Gasoline would hit $10/gallon. Hyperinflation would ensue.
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There was indeed some cheating in the 2020 election. Fortunately, most of those instances were detected, and people prosecuted. Curiously, those people disproportionately engaged in fraud to elect someone other than the winner of the election.

Likely a further leftist plot though. Get Democrats elected by committing voter fraud to get Republicans elected. Kind of like how the Republican plot of absentee ballots that resulted in one of the few times an election was overturned, was like totes the fault of a black Democrat organization, or something.

One need only look at the Republican judge, appointed by a Republican Governor, whose later election was run by the Republican party, who was somehow a Democrat when they released someone on low bail, to realize just how deep the Democrat deep state child eating socialist threat runs.

It's terrifying.
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Hawkeye wrote:
Fri Nov 04, 2022 9:23 pm
If Person B states that they think that the election is stolen, then tries to reverse that election by bogus lawsuits, continual public preaching of lies, and - eventually - a violent incursion into government buildings in an attempt to reverse that election, then that’s quite a different story.
There were a group of 200 rubes who entered the capital illegally. They were gone within a couple hours and Congress certified the election the same day as this supposed coup/violent insurrection occurred. None of those rubes are running for office but you have equated these 200 people with anyone who believes there was significant cheating going on in the 2020 election, which is the same belief that Stacey Abrams continues to contend about the Georgia gubernatorial election of 2018. And when the Republicans win this next round of elections, the left will continue their own big lie that elections were stolen and cast doubt upon whether or not the US has free and fair elections.

Democracy and our Republic as the founding fathers and the Constitution intended ended with the advent of Roosevelt and the great welfare society.
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Re: Will the Republic as we know it end?

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Hawkeye wrote:
Fri Nov 04, 2022 9:23 pm
If Person B states that they think that the election is stolen, then tries to reverse that election by bogus lawsuits, continual public preaching of lies, and - eventually - a violent incursion into government buildings in an attempt to reverse that election, then that’s quite a different story.
There were a group of 200 rubes who entered the capital illegally. They were gone within a couple hours and Congress certified the election the same day as this supposed coup/violent insurrection occurred. None of those rubes are running for office but you have equated these 200 people with anyone who believes there was significant cheating going on in the 2020 election, which is the same belief that Stacey Abrams continues to contend about the Georgia gubernatorial election of 2018. And when the Republicans win this next round of elections, the left will continue their own big lie that elections were stolen and cast doubt upon whether or not the US has free and fair elections.

Democracy and our Republic as the founding fathers and the Constitution intended ended with the advent of Roosevelt and the great welfare society.
The telling difference between Trump's claim of a stolen election and Abrams' claim is that Trump had practically zero credible evidence that the election was stolen from him, which even his appointees like William Barr and Chris Krebs readily admitted, while there is quite compelling evidence that Governor Kemp, in his role as Georgia's Secretary of State (which he refused to recuse himself from while running for governor) openly did his darnedest to remove as many people as possible from the election rolls whom he deemed unlikely to vote Republican, often for very questionable and frivolous reasons. He is still trying to promote legislation to suppress voting and make it harder to vote, especially in counties with a large percentage of non-white ethnic or racial minorities. He doesn't really even try to hide the fact!

Another telling difference is that, unlike Trump, Abrams didn't try to foment an armed insurrection to overturn the election!

I repeat what I said before that Republicans' claim of widespread cheating and election fraud by Democrats is almost pure projection!
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Re: Will the Republic as we know it end?

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Doctor Steuss wrote:
Fri Nov 04, 2022 9:40 pm
There was indeed some cheating in the 2020 election. Fortunately, most of those instances were detected, and people prosecuted. Curiously, those people disproportionately engaged in fraud to elect someone other than the winner of the election.

Likely a further leftist plot though. Get Democrats elected by committing voter fraud to get Republicans elected. Kind of like how the Republican plot of absentee ballots that resulted in one of the few times an election was overturned, was like totes the fault of a black Democrat organization, or something.

One need only look at the Republican judge, appointed by a Republican Governor, whose later election was run by the Republican party, who was somehow a Democrat when they released someone on low bail, to realize just how deep the Democrat deep state child eating socialist threat runs.

It's terrifying.

If Democrats were really concerned about MAGA republicans like Doug Mastriano ending the Republic, they wouldn't have supported him in the Republican primary because they thought he would be easy to beat in the general election.

People on the right are just as worried about the end of democracy as we knew it. You tried for 4 years to overturn the election of 2020 with the Russia collusion hoax. The FBI has been shown to have directed Big Tech to suppress the Hunter Biden laptop story before the 2020 election. The FBI has become a partisan tool of the Democrat party to go after their political opponents. You probably think that's fair game now. What are you going to think when we impeach your president in a couple months?
The best part about this is waiting four years to see how all the crazy apocalyptic predictions made by the fear mongering idiots in Right Wing media turned out to be painfully wrong...Gasoline would hit $10/gallon. Hyperinflation would ensue.
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Re: Will the Republic as we know it end?

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Hawkeye wrote:
Fri Nov 04, 2022 9:23 pm
If Person B states that they think that the election is stolen, then tries to reverse that election by bogus lawsuits, continual public preaching of lies, and - eventually - a violent incursion into government buildings in an attempt to reverse that election, then that’s quite a different story.
There were a group of 200 rubes who entered the capital illegally.
You left a ‘0’ off the end of that number.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/January ... tol_attack

They were gone within a couple hours and Congress certified the election the same day as this supposed coup/violent insurrection occurred. None of those rubes are running for office but you have equated these 200 people with anyone who believes there was significant cheating going on in the 2020 election …
I see that you’re suggesting an inequality of perception.

Then, how many cases nationwide have you uncovered regarding election fraud committed by Democratic Party voters, such that you claim that the entire party commits fraud to steal elections on a massive scale?

Are you able to even reach 1/10th of the total of Republicans who trespassed into the Capitol to rage, threaten and riot, or who have continued to bitch about the (nonexistent) ‘fraudulent’ election in the two years since?
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Hawkeye wrote:
Sat Nov 05, 2022 1:52 am
The FBI has been shown to have directed Big Tech to suppress the Hunter Biden laptop story before the 2020 election. The FBI has become a partisan tool of the Democrat party to go after their political opponents. You probably think that's fair game now. What are you going to think when we impeach your president in a couple months?
I know I will be thinking exactly what I am thinking now: that the GOP and right-wing media have destroyed the minds of a third of the people of this country because that was preferred over actually governing or having policies other than banning abortion and lowering taxes on the wealthiest Americans.

And what is the story with Hunter Biden’s laptop? That the chain of custody on it is so tainted that who can even say what happened to it before it was dropped off at that computer store by some mafia thug or other criminal factotum?

The same recycled nonsense over, and over, and over, and over, an over, and over again.

You guys are out of your minds.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Sat Nov 05, 2022 2:47 am
The same recycled nonsense over, and over, and over, and over, and over, and over again.

You guys are out of your minds.
Speaking of cat brains:

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/202 ... ies-gender
Joe Rogan admits schools don’t have litter boxes for kids who ‘identify’ as furries

… Rogan, the Colorado congresswoman Lauren Boebert, and the Minnesota Republican gubernatorial candidate Scott Jensen all swore they had heard stories of schools across the US changing their bathroom policies to accommodate wannabe felines.

… The furries-in-kindergarten myth was repeated by at least 20 candidates and officials this year.
Honorentheos is doing a good job of showcasing ‘conspiracy brain’ using Bing Bong as an object lesson down in Prison. There’s been a rash of posters who’ve come and gone that’ve fallen somewhere between a 9/11 Truther to a Pizzagater. All of them, unsurprisingly, have fallen victim to right-wing propaganda.

Anyway.

They’re gone. As Xanax has amply demonstrated, nothing, and I mean absolutely zero things will penetrate the dense fog that exists where once a brain was ensconced.

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Good to hear that story was debunked before Binger demanded such a litter box in the Spirit Prison Forum as a matter of parity.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Sat Nov 05, 2022 12:22 pm
Speaking of cat brains:

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/202 ... ies-gender
Joe Rogan admits schools don’t have litter boxes for kids who ‘identify’ as furries

… Rogan, the Colorado congresswoman Lauren Boebert, and the Minnesota Republican gubernatorial candidate Scott Jensen all swore they had heard stories of schools across the US changing their bathroom policies to accommodate wannabe felines.

… The furries-in-kindergarten myth was repeated by at least 20 candidates and officials this year.
Honorentheos is doing a good job of showcasing ‘conspiracy brain’ using Bing Bong as an object lesson down in Prison. There’s been a rash of posters who’ve come and gone that’ve fallen somewhere between a 9/11 Truther to a Pizzagater. All of them, unsurprisingly, have fallen victim to right-wing propaganda.

Anyway.

They’re gone. As Ajax18 has amply demonstrated, nothing, and I mean absolutely zero things will penetrate the dense fog that exists where once a brain was ensconced.

- Doc
Litter boxes for furries? Some sociopath at least has a sense of humor when they promulgate their horse manure.
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