Political Prisoner Persecuted , Prosecuted, but not silenced

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Tue Dec 27, 2022 1:34 pm
Manafort was a manager of an east Ukranian, ethnically Russian candidate for President of Ukraine.
That's quite a demotion from President for Yanukovych.

So does Manafort deny having met with Konstantin Kilimnik in his book?
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honorentheos wrote:
Tue Dec 27, 2022 2:16 pm
ajax18 wrote:
Tue Dec 27, 2022 1:34 pm
Manafort was a manager of an east Ukranian, ethnically Russian candidate for President of Ukraine.
That's quite a demotion from President for Yanukovych.

So does Manafort deny having met with Konstantin Kilimnik in his book?
No, Konstantin Kilmnik was everyone's interpreter, Democrat Republican and everyone in between, I believe he said he interpreted for John Mccain, Podesta. He knew pretty much every nonUkranian speaker.


Manafort describes Ukraine as a place where whichever party won the election took over any industry or existing capital.
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Here you go, Doc. This is the first linked article, less some images of the 4 residences mentioned.
Paul Manafort, President Trump’s former campaign chairman, was indicted on Monday with his longtime associate, Rick Gates, on charges of money laundering and making false statements to officials related to lobbying work in Ukraine.

The two men, who pleaded not guilty, are charged with setting up offshore bank accounts and making wire transfers from them to directly pay for goods, services and real estate in the United States. They are said to have done this without disclosing their foreign bank accounts or paying taxes on the income. The indictment lists more than 30 domestic and foreign entities that were involved in the plan.

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Over a period of six years, the indictment indicates, Mr. Manafort made transfers totaling $6.4 million for real estate and more than $12 million for personal goods and services like clothing, vehicles and home improvement.

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Total $18.5 million
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Mr. Manafort and Mr. Gates are also accused of using the accounts to pay more than $2 million to two Washington lobbying firms on behalf of their Ukrainian clients — former President Viktor F. Yanukovych of Ukraine and his pro-Russia party — who they were not registered to represent. Mr. Manafort and Mr. Gates developed a cover story to distance themselves from their lobbying activity and mislead agents of the Justice Department who were investigating them, the indictment says.

In 2012, Mr. Manafort made wire transfers from the offshore accounts to purchase three properties in New York and Virginia, the charges say. The three homes and a fourth in the Hamptons are listed in the indictment as subject to forfeiture if he is charged with money laundering:

- Condo in the SoHo neighborhood of Manhattan.
- Brownstone in Carroll Gardens, Brooklyn.
- House in Arlington, Va.
- House in the Hamptons, N.Y.

When Mr. Manafort later took out mortgages on two of these properties to obtain cash in the United States, he defrauded the institutions that loaned the money so he could borrow more at better rates, according to the indictment.

The indictment says that he purchased the Manhattan condo for $2.85 million and later used it as a rental property. It goes on to say that when he applied for a mortgage for the condo, he falsely claimed that it was a secondary home for his daughter and son-in-law so that he could get a sum larger than the loan available for a rental property. He received a $3.2 million loan.

Mr. Manafort purchased the Brooklyn brownstone for about $3 million, and he later was given a “construction loan” of $5 million, based on his promise that some of the money would go to increasing the home’s value. Instead, he told his tax preparer that it would allow him to pay back another mortgage in full, according to the indictment. It also says he used the money to make a down payment on another property in California.
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ajax18 wrote:
Tue Dec 27, 2022 2:55 pm
honorentheos wrote:
Tue Dec 27, 2022 2:16 pm


That's quite a demotion from President for Yanukovych.

So does Manafort deny having met with Konstantin Kilimnik in his book?
No, Konstantin Kilmnik was everyone's interpreter,
No, he was a close associate of Manaforts who worked for a Russian oligarch while Manafort was Trump's campaign manager, and to whom Manafort was caught sharing campaign information.

Did Manafort explain that in his book?
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Anyone reading facts between 2008 to 2014 would have seen thst yanakovuch was moving Ukraine toward Europe not Russia. According to Weisman Rosenstein secretly expanded the investgation to avoid tipping Manafort off. This was a lie. They secretly expanded the investigation because they didn't want to admit that nothing was turning up under Russian collusion.
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Manafort does admit that Rick Gates was not honest.

Honorentheos exactly what campaign information did Konstantin share with Russia?
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ajax18 wrote:
Tue Dec 27, 2022 3:30 pm
Manafort does admit that Rick Gates was not honest.

Honorentheos exactly what campaign information did Konstantin share with Russia?
What did he say in the book?
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I haven't finished it yet. I just wondered what campaign secrets they meant. Manafort said that the meeting at Trump tower that was so big in the news was something Jared, Don Jr, and himself barely remembered. Jared left early. Hillary Clinton's name was never mentioned in the meeting.

The initial charges said nothing of Russia. The only reason the FARA filings were used was that they allowed Weissman to make a Ukranian connection and create a narrative of Russian backchannels through Yanakovuch. These were the very issues Manafort reached an agreement with the FARA office of no criminality. The whole case was a fraud.

Manafort's bail was higher than John Goddy's at $10 million. He spent millions in legal fees. He took no salary for his time as Trump's campaign manager.

Manafort did say that Chris Christie was not chosen as VP because Jared would never forgive him for prosecuting and incarcerating Jared Kushner's father. You might find that interesting.
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ajax18 wrote:
Tue Dec 27, 2022 3:30 pm
Manafort does admit that Rick Gates was not honest.

Honorentheos exactly what campaign information did Konstantin share with Russia?
Manafort was found guilty on five counts of filing false tax returns, two counts of bank fraud, and one count of failing to disclose a foreign bank account.

The FBI began its investigation of Manafort in 2014, well prior to his work on Trump’s behalf.

Are you suggesting that he was being ‘persecuted’ for his involvement with Trump, given what he was convicted of, and when the investigation began?
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canpakes wrote:
Tue Dec 27, 2022 4:48 pm
ajax18 wrote:
Tue Dec 27, 2022 3:30 pm
Manafort does admit that Rick Gates was not honest.

Honorentheos exactly what campaign information did Konstantin share with Russia?
Manafort was found guilty on five counts of filing false tax returns, two counts of bank fraud, and one count of failing to disclose a foreign bank account.

The FBI began its investigation of Manafort in 2014, well prior to his work on Trump’s behalf.

Are you suggesting that he was being ‘persecuted’ for his involvement with Trump, given what he was convicted of, and when the investigation began?
Yes I am. Why was he not indicted back in 2014 then? Even if guilty how many people spend years in solitary confinement and $10 million bail for failure to file a FARA application. Only 6 people have even been charged in over 100 years of this statutes existence
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