FOX NEWS IS A DISGRACE

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ajax18 wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:26 pm
Alphus and Omegus wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:10 pm
And of course, ajax and other Trump followers are not reading any of these facts. I would bet that your average Trump devotee will never become aware of these disclosures.
I'd be open to a book exchange again. I'd like you to read, "The laptop from hell." What establishment Democrat piece of investigative journalism would you like me to read in exchange?
You did not comment on the topic of the recent posts here, which is that Fox hosts, producers, and executives have been definitively exposed forever as total liars who think their audience of Republican voters are snowflake morons.

Let's keep the discussion on-topic please.
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Alphus and Omegus wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 8:44 am
ajax18 wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:26 pm


I'd be open to a book exchange again. I'd like you to read, "The laptop from hell." What establishment Democrat piece of investigative journalism would you like me to read in exchange?
You did not comment on the topic of the recent posts here, which is that Fox hosts, producers, and executives have been definitively exposed forever as total liars who think their audience of Republican voters are snowflake morons.
Nor will he. Ajax's modus operandi has always been to crash threads that shatter his bogus view of the universe with derailments. It is why he will use multiple sock puppets to pretend like he's conversing with someone other than himself. He is the quintessential Trump era Republican that is so detached from reality it isn't even humorous anymore.

Meanwhile, Tucker Carlson's texts reveal he wanted a FOX News journalist fired for having the audacity to fact check Donald Trump. This was the mother of all smoking guns because he provided the motive as well by saying she should be fired because it was bad for the company and that the "stock price is down" because of it. Literally detailing how FOX is just a propaganda outlet that is only interested in telling their audience what they want to hear and they were terrified that they would lose to Newsmax for refusing to host the people they KNEW to be lying.
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ajax18 wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:26 pm
Alphus and Omegus wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 9:10 pm
And of course, ajax and other Trump followers are not reading any of these facts. I would bet that your average Trump devotee will never become aware of these disclosures.
I'd be open to a book exchange again. I'd like you to read, "The laptop from hell." What establishment Democrat piece of investigative journalism would you like me to read in exchange?
I don't know about Alphus and Omega, but I highly recommend Andy Borowitz's Profiles in Ignorance, How America's Politicians Got Dumber and Dumber (which I just finished reading). I don't know that it would be fair to characterize it as an "establishment Democrat piece, though. He mercilessly points out ignorance on the part of both Democrat and Republican politicians, though mainly the far more egregious ignorance of current Republicans.

I also recommend American Psychosis, a Historical Investigation of How the Republican Party Went Crazy by David Corn. I have just started reading that book and so far, I find it quite enlightening. It is obviously mainly about Republicans, but it details the history of both the current major political parties, as well as past American political parties, and does not hesitate to point out what he perceives as deficiencies, both past and present, of any of them.
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Gunnar wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:05 pm
ajax18 wrote:
Sat Feb 18, 2023 11:26 pm


I'd be open to a book exchange again. I'd like you to read, "The laptop from hell." What establishment Democrat piece of investigative journalism would you like me to read in exchange?
I don't know about Alphus and Omega, but I highly recommend Andy Borowitz's Profiles in Ignorance, How America's Politicians Got Dumber and Dumber (which I just finished reading). I don't know that it would be fair to characterize it as an "establishment Democrat piece, though. He mercilessly points out ignorance on the part of both Democrat and Republican politicians, though mainly the far more egregious ignorance of current Republicans.

I also recommend American Psychosis, a Historical Investigation of How the Republican Party Went Crazy by David Corn. I have just started reading that book and so far, I find it quite enlightening. It is obviously mainly about Republicans, but it details the history of both the current major political parties, as well as past American political parties, and does not hesitate to point out what he perceives as deficiencies, both past and present, of any of them.
Perhaps we both just seek out the narrative that helps our respective causes. You want global democratic socialism. I want the freedom to choose how I spend my earnings. We both can't have our way and there can never be lasting peace between us when we have such diametrically opposed beliefs and moral principles. And since you are not willing to allow us the space to live under our own government that aligns with our own philosophy and values because that would mean giving up your captive labor force, human beings can never have both freedom and peace. Such a special combination of blessings was achieved by the founding fathers and lasted for a little while in America but that time has past.
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ajax18 wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 3:12 pm
Gunnar wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 1:05 pm

I don't know about Alphus and Omega, but I highly recommend Andy Borowitz's Profiles in Ignorance, How America's Politicians Got Dumber and Dumber (which I just finished reading). I don't know that it would be fair to characterize it as an "establishment Democrat piece, though. He mercilessly points out ignorance on the part of both Democrat and Republican politicians, though mainly the far more egregious ignorance of current Republicans.

I also recommend American Psychosis, a Historical Investigation of How the Republican Party Went Crazy by David Corn. I have just started reading that book and so far, I find it quite enlightening. It is obviously mainly about Republicans, but it details the history of both the current major political parties, as well as past American political parties, and does not hesitate to point out what he perceives as deficiencies, both past and present, of any of them.
Perhaps we both just seek out the narrative that helps our respective causes. You want global democratic socialism. I want the freedom to choose how I spend my earnings. We both can't have our way and there can never be lasting peace between us when we have such diametrically opposed beliefs and moral principles. And since you are not willing to allow us the space to live under our own government that aligns with our own philosophy and values because that would mean giving up your captive labor force, human beings can never have both freedom and peace. Such a special combination of blessings was achieved by the founding fathers and lasted for a little while in America but that time has past.
Says the ethno-fascist who wishes the White man would conquer the Middle East, depopulate it, and use it for our own means. I wonder how he thinks he’s going to pay for it, if not through a sort of … national socialist tax package? I wonder how many White souls he’s willing to send to Valhalla so his progeny can set up an optometrist clinic in Iraq?

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ajax18 wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 3:12 pm

Perhaps we both just seek out the narrative that helps our respective causes. You want global democratic socialism.

God you're dumb. Everything is a catch phrase or boogeyman. No, the short term goal for the "woke" amounts to nothing more than equality for all, inclusion for all, and social justice. But racist pricks hate that so they encapsulate it all under the umbrella of "wokeism" and then turn it into a boogeyman so anyone trying to seek equality, inclusion and justice is immediately stigmatized. Democratic socialism is a long term goal that has little to do with wokeism.
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Rupert Murdoch is quoted in an email as saying FOX news should "help him any way we can" referring to Trump.

Imagine for a second that some texts or emails from CNN officials said something similar about helping Obama or Biden.
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Fox isn't news, it's idiot rants and confessions in the form of projection. Tucker Carlson freaked out over a satirical video by Chelsea Handler about being childless.

Carlson had a fellow moron on his show, some douche named Jesse Kelly, who was shamelessly misogynistic:
Kelly said Handler’s “womb resembles a dried-up tumbleweed blowing down an old western town,” adding her “Valentine’s date for the 10th year in a row is a 10-year-old copy of ‘Magic Mike’ and a half-full bottle of Xanax, and you’re trying to pretend like you’re happy, but you’re not happy.”
Not quoted in that article, Kelly also complained about "women being told they can do anything a man can do, which anyone who's seen a woman try to back up a car knows isn't true" (paraphrasing from memory).

This is what passes for "news" on Fox.

Handler had an awesome response to all of this. She made them look like the assholes they are. See article.
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Vēritās wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 4:16 pm
Rupert Murdoch is quoted in an email as saying FOX news should "help him any way we can" referring to Trump.

Imagine for a second that some texts or emails from CNN officials said something similar about helping Obama or Biden.
Related Reddit post today with regard to Trump’s ideology toward government (perhaps shared by Murdoch):
Think about it. The people who must have pissed Trump off the most before he ran for office were building inspectors and regulators who couldn't be bribed. They are nobodies themselves. They get paid next to nothing. They aren't famous or important. But they make the rules apply to him. Trump hates it when rules apply to him.

He's used to being special. For exceptions being made because he pay for them or because he's famous and someone wants to curry favor. If there's a problem he gets it in court and just stalls until the other side runs out of money or patience and quits. But none of that works with the building inspector. The building inspector isn't being paid by him and doesn't care about being on good terms with Trump because Trump won't do anything for them. The building inspector can't be sued because of qualified immunity and it being deep in law that you can't sue a government worker for doing their job.

Trump had no defense against the mid-level bureaucrat applying health codes and building codes and zoning codes. He hated that. When he had a chance he put people personally loyal to him in charge of all those bureaucrats to pressure those people to do whatever he wanted. Did NOAA get anything out of changing the forecast to make Trump 'right'? No. It was a flex on the faceless bureaucracy that made Trump feel impotent.

In the end, though, he didn't understand the problem. He didn't destroy the Deep State. He didn't find a way to exempt himself from the rules. He did smash an awful lot of the machinery trying to make that happen, but I am fairly certain that Trump will find that the law still still applies to him.

One of the many ironies of the Trump years is that he held most of his supporters in contempt, he thought they were low class losers.
I think a lot of his simp-supporters have a similar view of government, and can’t wrap their pea brains around its roles and responsibilities. They just think ‘taxes bad’ because their masters tell them to think it. None of them are curious enough to ever suss out the whys and hows of government, only that ‘government is bad’ because of *insert pet grievance here*. It’s damned bananas.

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Sun Feb 19, 2023 4:51 pm

I think a lot of his simp-supporters have a similar view of government, and can’t wrap their pea brains around its roles and responsibilities. They just think ‘taxes bad’ because their masters tell them to think it. None of them are curious enough to ever suss out the whys and hows of government, only that ‘government is bad’ because of *insert pet grievance here*. It’s damned bananas.
One thing I am glad about the presence of total Trump worshipers like ajax18 is that they illustrate better than anything to people with tenuous Republican loyalties that they are allied with blithering racists.

Many somewhat conservative people tell themselves that both parties are just as "extreme." It's a completely false argument given that Trump and many Republican media personalities constantly defend violent treasonous rioters who tried to murder Pence and Pelosi.

Seeing the Republican base up close through the words of our Confederate-loving troll makes it undeniable just what the purpose of the Republican Party is.
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