State of the Union

[Some Schmo]

Sarah Huckabee has resting constipated face. She always looks like she's trying to squeeze one out.

At least, for Sarah, the hyperbole and conspiracies flow much more freely.

No doubt. GOP pundits are the psyllium for conspiracy crap.

[ajax18]

Stay-at-home moms shouldn’t be allowed to vote?

It’s actually a far-Right premise that only landowners and heads of households should have the right to vote. I wouldn’t be surprised if Andrew Xanackson up there feels the same.

- Doc

People used to make a living from the land they owned. Now we earn a living by working a job. The founding father's would have only allowed people who work for a living to vote had they written the Constitution when we earned a living from our work in a restaurant or factory rather than on a homestead or farm.

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People used to make a living from the land they owned. Now we earn a living by working a job. The founding father's would have only allowed people who work for a living to vote had they written the Constitution when we earned a living from our work in a restaurant or factory rather than on a homestead or farm.

How did they end up "owning" their land, do you even know?

The Founding Fathers only allowed land owning white males to vote. They don't live in today's America so what they would say or think today isn't important. They're dead, and their views are outdated and racist.

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[canpakes]

It’s actually a far-Right premise that only landowners and heads of households should have the right to vote. I wouldn’t be surprised if Andrew Xanackson up there feels the same.

- Doc

People used to make a living from the land they owned. Now we earn a living by working a job. The founding father's would have only allowed people who work for a living to vote had they written the Constitution when we earned a living from our work in a restaurant or factory rather than on a homestead or farm.

Yet, they didn’t. They left the decision over who should vote to the States, and many States did not require a voter to be solely a male landowner or job holder.

Check it out: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timelin ... of%20color.

It is also fact that most people in America, at any time in our history, did not earn their living from land that they owned outright. James Madison was acutely aware of this when discussing the matter of who should be allowed to vote, and of the inherent compromise in limiting the vote to landowners. See his commentary on this here: http://memory.loc.gov/cgi-bin/ampage?co ... recNum=453

[Chap]

It is also fact that most people in America, at any time in our history, did not earn their living from land that they owned outright.

The idea the normal way of earning a living in (say) North America around the time of the revolutionary war or the following decades was by owning land that you worked yourself is odd, to say the least.

[ajax18]

Unless you're working and paying some kind of income tax, you shouldn't be voting. That's the only thing that will stop the conflict of interests that continues to lead to astronomical amounts of debt.

[Gunnar]

Unless you're working and paying some kind of income tax, you shouldn't be voting. That's the only thing that will stop the conflict of interests that continues to lead to astronomical amounts of debt.

So, are you saying that anyone who is laid off from their job or fired for any reason should not be allowed to vote until they find another job?