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The Last Of Us
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2023 6:43 am
by Everybody Wang Chung
Is anyone watching the series "The Last of Us" on HBO?
I just watched episode 3 and I thought it was brilliant. Best episode I think I've ever seen. I almost don't want to watch the remaining episodes because I know they can't equal episode 3.
Critics are hailing episode three as a masterpiece and one of the best episodes ever:
https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/the-l ... r-AA16TNbu
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/entertainment ... r-AA171tOm
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/a ... -EVER.html
https://www.dailyemerald.com/arts-cultu ... bd4f5.html
Re: The Last Of Us
Posted: Sun Feb 19, 2023 5:41 pm
by DaveIsHere
I played the games. Literally the only thing this show has going for it is Pedro Pascal.
Re: The Last Of Us
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:32 am
by honorentheos
It's a pretty good show. I think episode 3 was well acted and interesting, but I wouldn't put it in my top episodes of television I've ever watched. I can see how the representation in it could make it that for others.
I've seen other reviews of the series suggest it is the arrival of game adaptations into tv/film. And it's true video game adaptations generally translate poorly. But anyone who says that never watched Arcane on Netflix. I'd probably put every episode of Arcane above episode 3 of The Last of Us because it's that good as a series, in my opinion anyway. But yeah, I agree so far The Last of Us has been a good series.
Re: The Last Of Us
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:41 am
by honorentheos
DaveIsHere wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 5:41 pm
I played the games. Literally the only thing this show has going for it is Pedro Pascal.
This reminds me of a conversation I had recently with a younger guy about movies and TV. The conversation had turned to Star Wars and what from the Disney era was worth watching. He was a fan of the TV series that are all out on Disney+, and I commented that until Andor I hadn't seen an episode I thought worth rewatching. In contrast, he didn't even finish the 1st episode of Andor and thought it was unwatchable. So.
Re: The Last Of Us
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:20 am
by Everybody Wang Chung
honorentheos wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:41 am
DaveIsHere wrote: ↑Sun Feb 19, 2023 5:41 pm
I played the games. Literally the only thing this show has going for it is Pedro Pascal.
This reminds me of a conversation I had recently with a younger guy about movies and TV. The conversation had turned to Star Wars and what from the Disney era was worth watching. He was a fan of the TV series that are all out on Disney+, and I commented that until Andor I hadn't seen an episode I thought worth rewatching. In contrast, he didn't even finish the 1st episode of Andor and thought it was unwatchable. So.
Andor was great. Can't wait for season 2. I have to agree with this review:
It's a show focused on the minutiae of the grind. We get to see apartment buildings, broken robots, disappointed mothers eating dinner with their adult children. We watch the impacts of bureaucracy in action, crappy little work meetings, office bitch sessions. We watch families bickering over breakfast, agonizing over guest lists and just generally partaking in the banalities of everyday existence. Strangely, it's fascinating.
But beyond those topline concepts, Andor is simply a show that is good in almost every aspect of its production. It looks great, it's well written. Not a single line of dialogue feels overwrought or clumsy. It's packed with a number of top-notch performances as well.
https://www.cnet.com/culture/entertainm ... s-of-2022/
I enjoyed Arcane, but my wife LOVED Arcane.
Re: The Last Of Us
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:52 am
by honorentheos
Everybody Wang Chung wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:20 am
honorentheos wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 2:41 am
This reminds me of a conversation I had recently with a younger guy about movies and TV. The conversation had turned to Star Wars and what from the Disney era was worth watching. He was a fan of the TV series that are all out on Disney+, and I commented that until Andor I hadn't seen an episode I thought worth rewatching. In contrast, he didn't even finish the 1st episode of Andor and thought it was unwatchable. So.
Andor was great. Can't wait for season 2. I have to agree with this review:
It's a show focused on the minutiae of the grind. We get to see apartment buildings, broken robots, disappointed mothers eating dinner with their adult children. We watch the impacts of bureaucracy in action, crappy little work meetings, office bitch sessions. We watch families bickering over breakfast, agonizing over guest lists and just generally partaking in the banalities of everyday existence. Strangely, it's fascinating.
But beyond those topline concepts, Andor is simply a show that is good in almost every aspect of its production. It looks great, it's well written. Not a single line of dialogue feels overwrought or clumsy. It's packed with a number of top-notch performances as well.
https://www.cnet.com/culture/entertainm ... s-of-2022/
I'd agree with all of that, too. It's opening shot as Andor is walking to the brothel was my first cue that this was crafted, not made. And everything after that did not disappoint.
I enjoyed Arcane, but my wife LOVED Arcane.
Very fair. I suspect part of what made it hit so hard for me was I became emotionally engaged as a father in both of the female protagonists' stories. Damn if it didn't give me the feels. That elevated it for me in ways I suspect others might not find as engaging. But the craftsmanship is, in my opinion, universally aesthetically appreciable. I suspect too many people did what I did originally and dismissed it for being a game adaptation. I'm so glad I was pursuaded to give it a chance.
Re: The Last Of Us
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2023 11:21 am
by Kishkumen
Andor is second to ESB. Pretty much better than the rest of the franchise aside from that exception.
Last of Us is good stuff.
Re: The Last Of Us
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2023 3:49 pm
by honorentheos
Kishkumen wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 11:21 am
Andor is second to ESB. Pretty much better than the rest of the franchise aside from that exception.
Last of Us is good stuff.
My current ranking for Star Wars, highest at the top, is:
Andor
Rogue One
Empire Strikes Back
Select episodes of Clone Wars
Star Wars: A New Hope
Return of the Jedi
The Force Awakens
Everything else.
I love ESB and have fond memories of it from seeing it in theaters as a kid. But it is not as good as my nostalgia for it is. Rogue One is the only modern Star Wars movie that felt the same as my nostalgia for Star Wars. Andor...that's just great storytelling that happens to be in the Star Wars universe.
Re: The Last Of Us
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:46 pm
by Kishkumen
Your top three and mine are very close, honor.
Re: The Last Of Us
Posted: Mon Feb 20, 2023 5:12 pm
by Doctor CamNC4Me
Kishkumen wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 4:46 pm
Your top three and mine are very close, honor.
Same here! Although I’d put The Mandalorian up there.
Rogue One
ESB
The Mando
Star Wars
RotJ
Andor
While it seems Andor is waaaaay down the list, all these productions are separated by a few degrees.