Gun control (your thoughts on one thread)

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Re: Gun control (your thoughts on one thread)

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A couple of weeks ago, I drove over a car in a tank. The original plan was to fire a tank, but that tank was out of commission while my friend was in town for his birthday. We debated firing a howitzer, but decided on driving over a car.

Should I be allowed, without any type of background checks, training, licensing, fees, registration, etc., to buy a fully operational tank, and tank ammunition? Basically, go to a sporting goods store, buy a tank, some rounds, and maybe an artillery trailer too, to pull behind (two long-range explosive round firing guns is better than one, amirite?). Fifteen minutes, and money trading hands, and I have a tank, artillery, ammunition, and a dream.

Should someone who just served 30 years for murder be able to walk across the street from the prison to a mobile weapons truck, and buy whatever firearm they want, as easy as buying an ice-cream bar?

The vast (vast) majority of Americans, even the most ardent mis-interpreters of the 2nd Amendment believe in limitations to the “right to bear arms.” Very few would read the above, and think “Goht dam right people should be able to do that, cuz ‘Merica!” The gun control debate is constantly hijacked by bought politicians, and their cultists, with the majority of America left helplessly waiting for the next mass shooting, and “thoughts and prayers.” Almost everyone believes in limits, yet a subset of America allows limbic cultists to do their speaking for them, insinuating it’s only leftist who believe there should be common sense limitations and responsibility associated with owning firearms.

If for personal protection, you need more than a revolver (concealed) or shotgun (home), then I wish you the best of luck in your endeavors as a drug king pin. If you need more than a low-capacity repeating rifle for hunting, perhaps you need a different hobby. Maybe one that doesn’t require skill. If you want something simply because it gives you a gun boner, then be willing to go through steps for the privilege and responsibility of owning it.

I think guns are incredibly fun. I love shooting. Even with my intention tremors, I am a pretty decent shot. Give me an iron-sight .22, and a shovel to use as a standing tripod of sorts, and I’ll drop a sparrow from 100 yards easy-peasy. I’m the only one in my family who doesn’t use a shotgun for clearing jackrabbits from alfalfa fields. Basically, just pre-empting the “libtard just hates guns.”

Semi-auto shotguns are an absolute blast -- especially with a 10 round mag. Machine guns… well, they’re cool to fire, but incredibly overrated (in my opinion). The fun, excitement, prestige, and thrill of holding/owning/firing guns is tangible, and can be intoxicating. Everything else is mostly smoke and mirrors trying to justify that fun/excitement/thrill as being more important than the lives of others. You aren’t going to prevent another country from invading the US because you have 3 banana mags for your Savage. You aren’t going to win against the US military because you’ve got a custom painted P320. The home invader isn’t going to be less of a threat because you’ve got an AR-15 instead of a Mossberg 590.

Them’s my thoughts, anyways.
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ajax18 wrote:
Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:25 pm
Doctor Steuss wrote:
Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:06 pm

We're certainly allowed to propose it, if the end goal is to avoid anyone's gun fetish being inconvenienced. Who are we taxing for the trillions required to retrofit all of the schools? I guess gun owners would make sense.
Nobody. We're going back to free market schools. If it's not worth it to you, you don't have to buy it.
A less educated electorate would certainly help the agenda.
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Doctor Steuss wrote:
Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:58 pm
ajax18 wrote:
Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:25 pm


Nobody. We're going back to free market schools. If it's not worth it to you, you don't have to buy it.
A less educated electorate would certainly help the agenda.
The liberal view of education has nothing to do with teaching kids math or science. It's just poltical brainwashing and indoctrination.
And when the Confederates saw Jackson standing fearless like a stonewall, the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
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ajax18 wrote:
Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:08 pm
Doctor Steuss wrote:
Wed Mar 29, 2023 5:58 pm

A less educated electorate would certainly help the agenda.
The liberal view of education has nothing to do with teaching kids math or science. It's just poltical brainwashing and indoctrination.
This is true. Every time a 12-year-old sees one of Michaelangelo's masterpieces, a liberal leftists socialist Marxists communist Antifa is born.

The 1500s were too woke, and obvy full of deep state Democrats.


Edited for a little added sauce: Remember when 72% of Republicans said that Arabic numerals shouldn't be part of school curriculum? That rascally "liberal view" of math, that includes things like 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9... Diabolical, I says.
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Where is the manifesto she wrote? The FBI loves publishing this stuff when they think they can blame on a Bible believing Christian who might have watched Fox News in the past.
And when the Confederates saw Jackson standing fearless like a stonewall, the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
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ajax18 wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 2:06 am
Where is the manifesto she wrote? The FBI loves publishing this stuff when they think they can blame on a Bible believing Christian who might have watched Fox News in the past.
And when they and the Nashville PD release it are you going to admit you were wrong and apologize for spreading a conspiracy theory?

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We absolutely should get rid of the guns, even if it won't ever happen. Perhaps Gen Z will fix the problem as H suggests.

Law abiding citizens should absolutely have their guns taken away.

It's fascinating how right-wingers like Ajax can understand the idea of an externality if it involves gay people or something, but it's incomprehensible when it comes to guns, which is like, the most obvious example you can think of, along with dumping toxic waste into a river. Ajax doesn't own guns nor care about them, by the way. It's not just school shootings and American crime, the law-abiding American gun hobby has armed all of Latin America in addition to that.

A core attribute of the unhinged right-winger is the inability to have a shred of empathy for anyone until they experience the issue themselves. My right-wing friend; boy, could I go on about him. Guns are one of those issues. He's not a vocal Second Amendment guy. He has a couple guns, used to carry an A-Mike special on the walk. But he's never come out swinging about gun rights like he gets into abortion, or gas prices, or other right-wing fantasy topics. His brother was murdered by a guy who shot him down for no reason. Another one of those issues he used to be really vocal about is "me too". That is, until a close family member broke down one day and unloaded about years of abuse. Then with no other proof, he went straight to CPS, the police, the FBI, and he absolutely did the right thing. I've never heard him take jabs at abuse allegations in the media since.

But the chance of being involved in gun violence is low enough, like the chances of dying from Covid, that if you're one of the masses that's not affected, the personal lesson will never come, and so as a right-winger, that means be as absolutely self-serving, or party serving as possible without a concern in the world.
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ajax18 wrote:
Wed Mar 29, 2023 7:08 pm
The liberal view of education has nothing to do with teaching kids math or science. It's just poltical brainwashing and indoctrination.
I don't think you have any more than the foggiest view of what "liberal" even means.
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ajax18 wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 2:06 am
Where is the manifesto she wrote? The FBI loves publishing this stuff when they think they can blame on a Bible believing Christian who might have watched Fox News in the past.
Where's the topic?
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Jersey Girl wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 7:19 am
ajax18 wrote:
Thu Mar 30, 2023 2:06 am
Where is the manifesto she wrote? The FBI loves publishing this stuff when they think they can blame on a Bible believing Christian who might have watched Fox News in the past.
Where's the topic?
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I read a thing yesterday; there are nearly 400,000,000 firearms in the US. This won’t get fixed. :(

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