Trump Indicted

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ajax18 wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 12:15 am
Trump isn't squeaky clean. I guess you're used to having one standard for Democrat politicians and one for Republican politicians because well, the ends justify the means.

I'm guessing that Democrats will just draw this verdict on Trump out. They won't convict him unless he gets to close to winning for their comfort. Or perhaps after this election the Democrat grip on power will be nearly as solid a Xi's grip on China that they can haul Trump off to the Jan 6 gulag just for the fun of it. It doesn't really matter if people on the right have lost faith in the justice system being nonpartisan at this point. They're in the minority in this country and we're in a post Constitutional America. The Constitution hangs by a thread, just as the prophets said it would in the last days.
The only reason the constitution is hanging by a thread is because of Trump and other dishonest hardcore rightwing extremists and bigots like him who hate the rule of law whenever it inconveniences them and whose overriding concern is maintaining and adding to their own wealth and power, no matter whom they have to hurt to achieve it.

If a democrat or self-identified liberal were guilty of the same crimes Trump has been indicted for, I would be every bit as opposed to them as I am to Trump. It has been my observation that, unlike most Republicans, Democrats are very nearly as quick to condemn their own who break the law as they are to accuse Republicans who are guilty of it. The Republicans' claim that Democrats would falsely accuse their political opponents of violating the law to gain political advantage is mere projection on their part. They have all but openly admitted their willingness to do just that themselves, whenever they can get away with it.
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They are emotional know-nothings.
How do you define emotional know nothing?
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If a democrat or self-identified liberal were guilty of the same crimes Trump has been indicted for, I would be every bit as opposed to them as I am to Trump.
Did you know that Hillary Clinton's campaign filed their purchase of the phony Steele Dossier as "legal expenses," under their taxes?
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ajax18 wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 10:27 pm
If a democrat or self-identified liberal were guilty of the same crimes Trump has been indicted for, I would be every bit as opposed to them as I am to Trump.
Did you know that Hillary Clinton's campaign filed their purchase of the phony Steele Dossier as "legal expenses," under their taxes?
And how do we know this? Because the FEC investigated it (deep state, probably, because everything both is, and isn't, but also is... while not being), and Clinton's campaign and the DNC cooperated with the investigation, and have agreed to pay the relevant fines associated with the FEC investigation ($8K Clinton campaign, and $105K DNC).

If there is criminal misconduct involved, in classifying payments to an international law firm (Perkins Coie) as "legal expenses" on an FEC filing, then it should be referred to the relevant criminal/judicial entity to pursue.

If it isn't, I'm sure that's deep state, and somehow this is exactly the same as what Trump did... except not. Because liberal democrat socialists, something something. But, it's hypocrisy, and weaponization of the law or something, because reasons. Trump 2024.
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ajax18 wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 10:27 pm
If a democrat or self-identified liberal were guilty of the same crimes Trump has been indicted for, I would be every bit as opposed to them as I am to Trump.
Did you know that Hillary Clinton's campaign filed their purchase of the phony Steele Dossier as "legal expenses," under their taxes?
I’m just not impressed with this dollar level of tax manipulation. Trump declared $916 million in losses on his 1995 personal tax returns; the Hillary Clinton campaign needs to kick it up a notch.
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canpakes wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 10:38 pm
ajax18 wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 10:27 pm


Did you know that Hillary Clinton's campaign filed their purchase of the phony Steele Dossier as "legal expenses," under their taxes?
I’m just not impressed with this dollar level of tax manipulation. Trump declared $916 million in losses on his 1995 personal tax returns; the Hillary Clinton campaign needs to kick it up a notch.
We're talking about $130k payment in porn star hush money which Bragg wants to say but can't quite say was to influence information voters had access to in a federal election but can't quite say that because he has no jurisdiction over federal elections. Hillary Clinton made the same process error as Trump. Why isn't she being prosecuted? How much did Hillary Clinton pay in "legal fees" for the Steele dossier to dig up dirt on her presidential opponent Donald Trump?
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Why worry about Trump? I thought that you were all about DeSantis, now?
I'm not worried. I just like trying to guess what the future holds specifically. I love presidential primaries, even Democrat primaries. They're some of the most revealing times in politics. You already know what the narrative will be from each party in a general election. But seeing Kamala Harris call Joe Biden racist on the debate stage was not something you get to see every day. Or seeing Trump criticize DeSantis for voting to phase out social security in one of the most disgusting wastes of his supporters hard earned dollars campaign ad was revealing to me as well.
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Gross.

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ajax18 wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 11:40 pm
How much did Hillary Clinton pay in "legal fees" for the Steele dossier to dig up dirt on her presidential opponent Donald Trump?
I don’t know about Hillary Clinton. But it does appear that you, as a taxpayer - between having to kick in to make up for Trump’s $916 million loss, to then sending him additional hundreds over two decades later to finance his extramarital porn star dalliances and other bad decisions - haven’t gotten very much bang for your buck in supporting this welfare king.
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ajax18 wrote:
Wed Apr 05, 2023 11:40 pm
We're talking about $130k payment in porn star hush money which Bragg wants to say but can't quite say was to influence information voters had access to in a federal election but can't quite say that because he has no jurisdiction over federal elections.
That was $130k to Stormy Daniels. Try again. It isn't the only hush money involved. There were other people he paid off, and one of them got paid off for a rumor. That smacks of desperation. Not to mention he violated state election laws. Try again with an understanding that the DA isn't only relying on federal election law for the charges. Legal experts agree that this is probably the weakest of many cases Trump is about to face, yet they agree it's a pretty solid case.

This is a cult.

A Trump supporter actually wrote a book called "President Donald J. Trump, The Son of Man - The Christ". Mike Pence is Judas, by the way. It is sold at his rallies. Of course the Trump campaign doesn't endorse or condemn it. Still, it is another example of how he's worshiped. I remember Obama supporters ridiculed by conservatives as worshiping a false messiah. He never claimed he was. His supporters never claimed he was. Trump supporters carry his flag (literally) and believe he will create Zion in the US.
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