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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 2:35 pm
If it’s as damning as they either say or imply, it would’ve been published in a NY minute? My guess is they like to male out of nothing, so by keeping it unpublished they can keep lying about its contents with regard to Biden, and thei base, as usual, gobbles it up.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 2:35 pm
Dr Exiled wrote:
Mon Jul 24, 2023 11:19 pm


CBS news only reported that it commissioned a forensic study and published the results. Anyway, the FBI has the laptop and so it could disabuse all the republicans if it wanted to. However, the FBI is, for some reason, is reluctant to supply anything regarding this story and remained silent when the validity of the laptop story was questioned by Twitter personnel back in Oct, 2020.
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Nothing from the laptop has revealed illegal or unethical behavior by Joe Biden as vice president with regard to his son's tenure as a director for Burisma.

My question for the bad-faith laptop goblins out there was why didn’t GOP operatives simply post a copy of the laptop online? If it’s as damning as they either say or imply, it would’ve been published in a NY minute? My guess is they like to male out of nothing, so by keeping it unpublished they can keep lying about its contents with regard to Biden, and thei base, as usual, gobbles it up.

- Doc
This guy published the emails from the laptop:

https://bidenlaptopemails.com/

Here is where you can access the media on the laptop:

https://bidenlaptopmedia.com/

Anyway, why not just move on, right? So what if Joe and Hunter received $5 Mil each to get rid of Shokin. "Son of a bitch" it just doesn't matter. This Archer guy, what does it matter if he shows how Joe was lying about his involvement with Hunter's and Joe's brother's influence peddling. Time to move on, nothing to see here.
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RE: why doesn't the FBI release

Can they? Sure, in the GOP narrative where Joe personally controls the FBI he can just call up and say to release it. But I don't think that's possible in the real world. If any of us get raided by the FBI, can they post our hard-drive contents publicly to prove what they were looking for wasn't found? Even if we beg them to to prove our innocence because people on Facebook are harassing us, can they? pretty sure "no" based on common sense.
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Gadianton wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 5:58 pm
RE: why doesn't the FBI release

Can they? Sure, in the GOP narrative where Joe personally controls the FBI he can just call up and say to release it. But I don't think that's possible in the real world. If any of us get raided by the FBI, can they post our hard-drive contents publicly to prove what they were looking for wasn't found? Even if we beg them to to prove our innocence because people on Facebook are harassing us, can they? pretty sure "no" based on common sense.
Congress could subpoena the Hunter Biden laptop the FBI has in its possession. It has the power to do so. https://www.law.cornell.edu/constitutio ... d-congress

However, I don't see much objection to the contents of the laptop. Sure there are attempts to muddy the waters in the press, but, no one in the committee is claiming the contents aren't valid at this point. That would force the committee to subpoena the laptop and going down that road would bring on more unwanted coverage. We are at the "let's move on, nothing to see here, look at any distraction" level and having a subpoena fight with the FBI would only make things worse. The public already can see the bias shown with the subpoena fight over the FBI document that discussed the bribery issue. No need for more when the play now is to attempt to push all this under the rug.
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I was referring to this:
So, have the FBI produce the laptop. It is in possession of it and producing it can satisfy this mystery. However, I suspect, for some reason, "national security" or "ongoing investigation" (perhaps a 20 plus year investigation?) would be the excuse as to why it won't produce the laptop.
someone who knows law better than me could easily prove me wrong, but my point was that the FBI not producing the laptop isn't a cover up, the FBI isn't ever going to release a private citizens hard drive it raided just to prove it's clean.
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Gadianton wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 11:48 pm
I was referring to this:
So, have the FBI produce the laptop. It is in possession of it and producing it can satisfy this mystery. However, I suspect, for some reason, "national security" or "ongoing investigation" (perhaps a 20 plus year investigation?) would be the excuse as to why it won't produce the laptop.
someone who knows law better than me could easily prove me wrong, but my point was that the FBI not producing the laptop isn't a cover up, the FBI isn't ever going to release a private citizens hard drive it raided just to prove it's clean.
It would have to be the subject of a subpoena. I never suggested it was a coverup. I was responding to those here who are trying to muddy the waters as to whether the laptop is Hunter's and if what is being reported about its contents are valid. In response, the FBI has the actual laptop and so let's look at it via a congressional subpoena, if the contents being reported is really an issue instead of just a diversion as I suspect.
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It seems like what matters isn't so much what crime you've committed but whether you have enough political allies in power to protect you. Prison and freedom now come down to an election.

I wonder why Mr. principled and proper Mitt Romney or Liz Cheney never had anything to say about the Biden family business? Biden literally leveraged American taxpayer money to obstruct justice against Burisma in Ukraine and bragged about it on tape. Trump was only accused of threatening to withhold aid if they didn't investigate Hunter Biden's influence pedaling and Romney felt so strongly about it that he had speak out and be true to his principles by voting with the Democrats. Which way will he vote when Republicans impeach Biden? Why is it that RINOs only open their mouths when it's a fellow Republican? Because they're establishment chamber of commerce RINOs and they'd rather support globalist democratic socialism than America first economic nationalism.
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Dr Exiled wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:28 pm
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 2:35 pm
-_-

Nothing from the laptop has revealed illegal or unethical behavior by Joe Biden as vice president with regard to his son's tenure as a director for Burisma.

My question for the bad-faith laptop goblins out there was why didn’t GOP operatives simply post a copy of the laptop online? If it’s as damning as they either say or imply, it would’ve been published in a NY minute? My guess is they like to male out of nothing, so by keeping it unpublished they can keep lying about its contents with regard to Biden, and thei base, as usual, gobbles it up.

- Doc
This guy published the emails from the laptop:

https://bidenlaptopemails.com/

Here is where you can access the media on the laptop:

https://bidenlaptopmedia.com/

Anyway, why not just move on, right? So what if Joe and Hunter received $5 Mil each to get rid of Shokin. "Son of a bitch" it just doesn't matter. This Archer guy, what does it matter if he shows how Joe was lying about his involvement with Hunter's and Joe's brother's influence peddling. Time to move on, nothing to see here.
1) Do we know who the gentlemen behind “bidenlaptopemails.com” are?

2) I spent a few minutes perusing the emails and couldn’t find anything illegal. Help?

3) How do we know any of this content hasn’t been tampered with?

4) Why not post a copy of the entire hard drive?

This is exactly what I was talking about above - however, if you do find something illegal in these emails, please share so we can stress test the information against the interwebz. Thanks.

- Doc
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Wed Jul 26, 2023 1:28 am
Dr Exiled wrote:
Tue Jul 25, 2023 4:28 pm
This guy published the emails from the laptop:

https://bidenlaptopemails.com/

Here is where you can access the media on the laptop:

https://bidenlaptopmedia.com/

Anyway, why not just move on, right? So what if Joe and Hunter received $5 Mil each to get rid of Shokin. "Son of a bitch" it just doesn't matter. This Archer guy, what does it matter if he shows how Joe was lying about his involvement with Hunter's and Joe's brother's influence peddling. Time to move on, nothing to see here.
1) Do we know who the gentlemen behind “bidenlaptopemails.com” are?

2) I spent a few minutes perusing the emails and couldn’t find anything illegal. Help?

3) How do we know any of this content hasn’t been tampered with?

4) Why not post a copy of the entire hard drive?

This is exactly what I was talking about above - however, if you do find something illegal in these emails, please share so we can stress test the information against the interwebz. Thanks.

- Doc
The same guy that published the emails and media from Hunter's laptop claims to have found a multitude of criminal conduct and put it all in a report. I just found this and so haven't yet read it. However, it might help answer your question.

https://bidenlaptopreport.marcopolousa. ... x.html#p=1

As far as publishing the entire drive, I'm for it.

Also, as far as verification, this is why perhaps congress should subpoena the laptop from the FBI so as to satisfy those who question or don't want to know.

ETA: I know this is probably going to go in one ear and out the other, but, this exercise should be about finding the truth and then dealing with it and not about team politics or gotcha nonsense. At this point, it appears that the democrats and the media that support them are uninterested in finding out whether or not their leader is corrupt and the same goes for the Trump supporters on the other side. This attitude, the bickering and the religious fervor people have toward their political parties is killing the country. Facts need to be discovered and analyzed in the context of law and all guilty parties should then be punished accordingly. Also great care should be had to make sure that the process is fair and that isn't being done. Too much is being framed in the context of what president nominated this person or that. And we suffer under what more and more looks like a uniparty/media/industry complex that isn't for the people.
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My, man. That link reads like the ravings of a conspiracy-obsessed lunatic. Please answer questions 1-5.

- Doc
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